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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:55 pm
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:55 pm
All of this playoff talk the past few weeks has gotten me interested in high school football. I've recently moved to New Orleans from out of state so I don't really know who are the traditional powers, who hates who, how your playoff system works and all that. The biggest difference I can surmise from high school football in VA is that y'all have private and public schools playing each other which rarely happens up there and only in exhibition. If anybody is interested in giving me a rundown on LHSAA football it'd be appreciated.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:56 pm to
Uhigh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else

Pretty much sums it up
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22396 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:58 pm to
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y'all have private and public schools playing each other


not in the playoffs anymore.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21305 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

not in the playoffs anymore.


Would you care to elaborate?
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:03 pm to
Playoffs are separated. Privates have their own playoffs and publics have their own.

But they aren't separated during the regular season. Private and public schools could be in the same district
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67006 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:09 pm to
Private and public schools play each other in the regular season, but have separate playoff brackets. St. Aug, Brother Martin, and Jesuit are the main powers in New Orleans.

Statewide, some of the big ones are West Monroe, Parkway, Parkview Baptist, Catholic BR, U-High, Southern Lab, Scotlandville Magnet, East St. John, Hahnville, Destrahan, St. Thomas Moore, E.D. White, etc.

There are way too many brackets, resulting in teams with losing records, or even winless teams getting into the playoffs.

Finally, Catholic BR, Saint Amant, East Ascension, and Dutchtown are all choke artists in the post season.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94894 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:11 pm to
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Finally, Catholic BR, Saint Amant, East Ascension, and Dutchtown are all choke artists in the post season.

quote:

Catholic High claims 2nd title in 3 years after defensive battle with John Curtis


Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7792 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:13 pm to
What are the classifications for the playoffs?

Where I grew up we had Division's 1-5/6/7 depending on the sport. Division 1 included the schools with the biggest enrollments and 5/6/7 were the smallest schools.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:14 pm to
John Curtis Christian School
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67006 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:15 pm to
Publics are 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, and 5A

Privates are Division 1, 2, 3, and 4
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:16 pm to
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tatewide, some of the big ones are West Monroe, Parkway, Catholic BR, U-High, Southern Lab, Scotlandville Magnet, East St. John, Hahnville, Destrahan, St. Thomas Moore, E.D. White, etc.

LOL lists EDW and U-High.

Fails to list Parkview Baptist, the flagship program of BR for the past ~20 years.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Publics are 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, and 5A

Privates are Division 1, 2, and 3


There are 4 divisions on the private side
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67006 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:17 pm to
Sorry, I must be as high as all of the Parkview pill poppers. I’ll add them.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47479 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:18 pm to
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St. Aug, Brother Martin, and Jesuit are the main powers in New Orleans.
they're Catholic schools. In no world are they the "main powers" in NOLA

That would be Karr, Landry Walker, Warren Easton, and McDonogh 35
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14395 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:22 pm to
In regular season play there are five classifications from 1A (smallest schools) to 5A largest schools. Districts are comprised of both public (non-select admissions policy = have to take anyone who applies/traditional public schools) and private (select admissions policy=can reject students/ private, Catholic and magnet/charter schools)

For the playoffs, the public or non-select schools play each other in the same 5 classifications.

For the playoffs, the select schools play in 4 "divisions" with division I being the largest schools and division IV being the smallest.

The most storied and discussed district in greater New Orleans is the Catholic League, which started in 1955. The LHSAA has, for the most part over the years, kept these schools together except when, in the first decade of the 21st century they forced every school in the state to compete at their enrollment classification. They have since rescinded this rule and allow schools to "play up" into whatever division they wish.

Currently, the Catholic League plays AAAAA with a at least three schools having an enrollment significantly smaller than AAAAA size : Archbishop Rummel, Archbishop Shaw, Brother Martin, Holy Cross School, Jesuit High School. John Curtis Christian School, and Saint Augustine High School. In years past, AAA runner-up DeLaSalle was in the Catholic League as well as public Chalmette High School. But DeLaSalle has lost significant enrollment in the last 20 years, and when forced to play "in class" they stayed down.
John Curtis Christian School is a AA sized school that has dominated Louisiana football for 40+ years, now, with 27 state championships in nearly every class they've played in. When the LHSAA 12 or so years ago forced them to play down in class, they destroyed AA football, leading to the resentment that finally brought the public schools to push for and pass the playoff split.


On the public school side, Edna Karr and Landry-Walker in Algiers are magnet schools and VERY strong football programs going deep into the playoffs every year, and sending players to D.1 universities. On the East Bank of New Orleans, Warren Easton has built over the last ten years or so a very strong program, and McDonogh 35 has been strong for decades, but never faring as well in the playoffs as some of the others. 35 gave us Marshall Faulk, if I remember correctly.AND I'M MISTAKEN, FAULK WENT TO CARVER.

In Jefferson Parish, John Ehret in Marrero has been strong since its founding in 1977, while West Jefferson and L.W. Higgins have had good programs, but much less consistent.

The schools on the East Bank of Jefferson Parish have been less consistent over they years. It's my impression that the most consistent of the bunch has been East Jefferson High School who actually won a state championship in 2013, but it was their first, beating Edna Karr.

Obviously there are dozens more schools in greater New Orleans, but these are the southshore's most noted. There are certainly more in Plaquemines Parish (Belle Chasse, South Plaq.,) St. Bernard (Chalmette High School) and others in New Orleans, Jefferson Parish, and just outside the metro area in St. Charles Parish (Destrehan and Hahnville--great rivalry), and St. John the Baptist Parish (St. Charles Comets, Riverside Rebels, East St. John, West St. John (class of 1A football.)

THEN, there are the northshore schools which showed pretty well this year, as well.

I've left off a lot of the state, but the OP asked for New Orleans or the metro area. This state is football rich, and I don't even feel like I've done enough justice to G.N.O.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26442 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:25 pm to
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St. Aug, Brother Martin, and Jesuit are the main powers in New Orleans.


am I under the assumption that's in Orleans Parish..?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67006 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:26 pm to
Yes
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9304 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:44 pm to
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35 gave us Marshall Faulk, if I remember correctly.


Carver Rams baw
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14395 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:46 pm to
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat's right.
Fantastic new facility, too.
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25604 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:47 pm to
As RedPop4 mentioned, for the regular season all schools are put into one of five classifications based on enrollment #s and then sorted into districts based on geography. Districts are numbered starting the NE corner of the state (Shreveport) and then trickle down through Alexandria, Lake Charles, Lafayette, BR, the northshore, River Parishes & Bayou region and then New Orleans. Classifications are reset every 2 years (this year was the first of the cycle) with teams changing classification based on enrollment changes and/or changes in the enrollment cut-off point. The cut-off points can and do change virtually every 2 years as well as the LHSAA tries to keep a similar # of schools in each of the 5 classes. The enrollment cut-offs for this year and next are:

- 5A - Enrollment of 1,196 and above
- 4A - Enrollment 669-1,195
- 3A - Enrollment 426-668
- 2A - Enrollment 257-425
- 1A - Enrollment 256 and Below

*Note that there are non-football playing schools in the state. Larger ones are slotted into the classes shown above. There are also Class B & Class C which are made up of non-football playing schools that are on the lower end of the 1A enrollment bucket.



When we get to the playoffs, the Private/Select schools are slipped into the following divisions:

- Division I - Enrollment 1,196 and Above; your 5A private/select schools
- Division II - Enrollment 426-1,195; combined 4A & 3A private/select schools
- Division III - Enrollment 257-425; 2A private/select schools
- Division IV - Enrollment 256 and Below; 1A private/select schools
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