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re: New to Louisiana High school football

Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:27 pm to
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The privates could bleed out the public schools if they wanted to.


Maybe in BR and New Orleans but not up notth, the River and Bayou regions, Laffayette and Lake Charles.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95195 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Maybe in BR and New Orleans
Which is all that matters........Half of the states population, and 90% of its money are in those two areas
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45126 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:40 pm to
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Please show me your research

It doesn't work like that buddy. You are the one who thinks public school football cannot survive without private schools. It is you who stated that 99% of revenue is produced by private schools.

You started this so it is you who needs to provide the research.

You are like the liberals who claim that God doesn't exists. You say it then challenge others to prove that he does. No the way it works is you make a statement then back it up with facts.

If I had it my way I would have the LHSAA ban any and all competition between LHSAA members and private schools in any sport.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95195 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:41 pm to
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You are like the liberals who claim that God doesn't exists.
I always know I won an argument when someone brings out the "you are a liberal" argument when talking sports
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95195 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:41 pm to
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If I had it my way I would have the LHSAA ban any and all competition between LHSAA members and private schools in any sport.
Just like a liberal sjw.........
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45126 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:02 pm to
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I always know I won an argument when someone brings out the "you are a liberal" argument when talking sports


Hey you may or may not be, but that is how you are acting. You stated more than once that 99% of revenue is produced by private schools. SO lets see the data? Surely you don't say that without data to back it up?

You say that public high school football couldn't survive without private schools? what can you provide to back this up.

You say that private school games out draw public, so where are the attendance figures?

Private schools need public schools far more than visa versa.

Private schools sports would nearly dry up within 3 years if public schools quit playing them. In my opinion of course because I cannot produce factual data on future events.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45126 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:04 pm to
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Just like a liberal sjw.........


Not really, but just to prove a point that private school sports would nearly disappear without public schools.

Why should public schools subsidize private schools by playing them and providing the with gate money.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 1:05 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84883 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:06 pm to
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I would vehemently disagree with this on per school basis

Disagree all you want but doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.


Your two examples were WM vs. Curtis, in Shreveport, and Evangel vs. Neville.

How about Notre Dame vs. literally any public school on their schedule? What about Parkview? There might be a handful or two of public schools in 3A or lower that have a prayer without private schools.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45126 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Maybe in BR and New Orleans
Which is all that matters.......


There we have it and shows the truth.

You have no fricking clue what goes on outside of your own little bubble.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95195 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:08 pm to
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There we have it and shows the truth.

You have no fricking clue what goes on outside of your own little bubble.
No. I am saying Nola and Br provide half of the states population and almost all of the states money
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84883 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:14 pm to
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Why should public schools subsidize private schools by playing them and providing the with gate money.


You need to step out of your 5A/4A bubble. There are 126 publics in 1A, 2A, and 3A. Those schools need the 45 or so privates in the similar divisions immensely, and it's not just football. The other sports are even worse.

We used to play baseball against a public school in district that would forfeit their return trip to our place every year. They'd only keep the game at their place for the gate.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95195 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:15 pm to
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You need to step out of your 5A/4A bubble. There are 126 publics in 1A, 2A, and 3A. Those schools need the 45 or so privates in the similar divisions immensely, and it's not just football. The other sports are even worse.
Bingo
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45126 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:16 pm to
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No. I am saying Nola and Br provide half of the states population and almost all of the states money




While that maybe the case in statistically, you can't just apply that to high school football or sports.

For example my High School, Ponchatoula High is in District 6-5A. St Paul's is the only private school in our district along with public schools, Covington, Slidell, Nortshore, Mandeville and Fontainbleau. I can assure you there would be zero impact on any of these schools if St Paul's suddenly disappeared.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95195 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:17 pm to
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For example my High School, Ponchatoula High is in District 6-5A. St Paul's is the only private school in our district along with public schools, Covington, Slidell, Nortshore, Mandeville and Fontainbleau. I can assure you there would be zero impact on any of these schools if St Paul's suddenly disappeared.


If the split happens, the public schools will have 5a/4a football and basketball, some 5a/4a baseball, barely any of the other sports, and 3a and down will be completely fricked in almost every sport
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16423 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:25 pm to
Ok, obvious you are ignorant about the state.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45126 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:26 pm to
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If the split happens, the public schools will have 5a/4a football and basketball, some 5a/4a baseball, barely any of the other sports, and 3a and down will be completely fricked in almost every sport




The private schools will be fricked, it will have little impact on public other than they will need to redo the districts. IMO

FWIW I don't like the split. But something needed and needs to be done to stop the cheating and recruiting by private schools. Yes I know there are a few public schools that do it and their are rules to punish them. Enforcing these rules are whole different matter and a discussion for another day. But private schools can operate outside of these rules and that just isn't right and creates a uneven field.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40264 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:29 pm to
6/5A is not a good representation for the rest of the state. Regardless, Mandeville lost their great football coach because they couldn’t get a sanitary field house.

Tieney at Ponchatoula recruits more than St. paul’s.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95195 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:31 pm to
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The private schools will be fricked,
100% guaranteed the privates would have zero issues. That cant be argued. They are based on people paying out of their pockets to go to school there.


The only possible question is how will the publics respond
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84883 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:32 pm to
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The private schools will be fricked, it will have little impact on public other than they will need to redo the districts. IMO


~2/3rds of the public schools in this state would be in major trouble without private schools. 3A on down would be a bloodbath.

4A and 5A would be largely unscathed.

All schools get one vote in the LHSAA, and it's ironic the smaller schools forced the split due to their shear numbers, even though they're the ones who would be most negatively impacted if privates left altogether.

ETA - 1A and 2A were getting the short end of the stick after 3,4, and 5A forced the "play in class rule." It's all come full circle though.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45126 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:37 pm to
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Tieney at Ponchatoula recruits more than St. paul’s.




okay

quote:

Mandeville lost their great football coach because they couldn’t get a sanitary field house.


What does that have to do with anything?
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