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re: MLB Trade Rumors: 07/31/17 Darvish/Cingrani to Dodgers, Kintzler to the Nats

Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:08 am to
Posted by Adam Banks
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:08 am to
I'd do it. Certainly not for a mediocre 4.5 era guy but for a guy with mid 3s and has pitched with stuff that put him sub 3 ERA? Yeah I'd do it
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:08 am to
tucker will have to be invovled to get a player like degrom
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
61068 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:08 am to
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U mad bc you thought the stros were gonna get Quintana ? See what happens when you gotta come off a fisher or tucker to nab an ace. You won't GAF about dealing unproven prospects for a chance to win. You wish you would've sold a Paulino or martes already. Cubs done set the market


Not at all. I didn't want Quintana. I'm perfectly aware that it's going to hurt to get the guy that puts you over the top. My point was that the Cubs just won it all, and are now being mentioned in connection with multiple trade targets. Just doesn't seem to make much sense. If by "set the market", you mean overpaid, then yes.

Also, Cubs AND Clemson fan? That's cute.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84318 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:10 am to
Michael Pineda has a partial tear of his UCL. He is seeking a second opinion but the recommendation is to have Tommy John surgery.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
61068 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Michael Pineda Has Torn UCL; Tommy John Surgery Recommended mlbtraderumors.com/2017/07/michae…


Oh shite!

ETA: Dammit, Jwho
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:18 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:13 am to
Yankees should go into sell mode...


Wonder if this means I can get Chance Adams now
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37812 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Yankees should go into sell mode...


Ok ok well do it
Judge for Fisher






Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150170 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:15 am to
maeda for judge
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74445 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:16 am to
quote:

My point was that the Cubs just won it all, and are now being mentioned in connection with multiple trade targets. Just doesn't seem to make much sense


Arrieta will walk, lackey is old. They are looking forward a bit and are looking for controllable SP. Like any smart team would I reckon

They have enough young assets to afford them a consolidation.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:20 am to
Headley
Gardner
Ellsbury
CC
Clippard
Warren

sell them all off, let the kids play out the year
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84318 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Headley
Gardner
Ellsbury
CC
Clippard
Warren

sell them all off, let the kids play out the year



Would be the smart play, but will ownership agree?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:21 am to
Zobrist is the only position player they're set to lose correct? All of the others have multiple years of team control?

So why are people upset the Cubs are trading for pitching when that is the one area they don't control outside of Hendricks.
Posted by rebel of fortune
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:22 am to
I don't think the Mets are gonna move Degrom unless they get blown away with an offer. It would have to be something like the White Sox got for Sale for them to move him. I think the Mets keep that team together for one more year.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:22 am to
Pineda being out, I hope they don't do something stupid and sell the farm for Gray, Cole, etc....

Yankees are not close to being series World Series contenders. Right now they are more WC2 contenders that would get knocked out if they advanced past that.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74445 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:

If by "set the market", you mean overpaid, then yes.


So if the Cubs were willing to give up Jimenez and Cease in deals for a SP, and they overpaid...

quote:

The #Cubs tried to acquire Fulmer, Archer,Cole before Quintana, thwarting #Brewers aggressive attempt. What's next?


What's the cost going to be for the above mentioned?

Setting the market baws
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
61068 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:25 am to
quote:

So why are people upset the Cubs are trading for pitching when that is the one area they don't control outside of Hendricks.


Nobody's upset, and my post was in reference to the post stating all of the other guys that the Cubs may be pursuing.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37812 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:26 am to
quote:

The #Cubs tried to acquire Fulmer, Archer,Cole before Quintana, thwarting #Brewers aggressive attempt. What's next?


What's the cost going to be for the above mentioned?

Setting the market baws



You don't have the prospects for any of those and nobody wants a bum legged .185 hitter
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:30 am to
quote:

my post was in reference to the post stating all of the other guys that the Cubs may be pursuing.


Yeah but the whole "remake" the team. They are not remaking anything. They are trading from a surplus of players who won't see major league action for 2-3 years. Hell in 2-3 years they could have another crop of talented kids coming up. Especially when it comes to paying all of these guys they could move some and restock the farm all while remaining competitive.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63416 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:30 am to
Tucker/Martes would be the starting point for a deal for DeGrom for sure I would think. I would be fine with giving up those two for him plus others as long as Whitley and Fisher stay.

I still think Sonny Gray will be who Houston gets, plus someone like Justin Wilson
This post was edited on 7/14/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84318 posts
Posted on 7/14/17 at 11:31 am to
@Ken_Rosenthal
Source confirms: #Cubs pursuing Gray even after getting Quintana. First reported: @jonmorosi.

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