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re: MLB owners should cancel season
Posted on 5/29/20 at 11:59 am to wildtigercat93
Posted on 5/29/20 at 11:59 am to wildtigercat93
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The least wealthy owner makes/is worth more than 99.99999 percent of the nation and they cry and fudge numbers to act like they are broke all the time, why would you pick their side
Right. Shaq said it pretty well when someone asked him what it's like to be wealthy: "I'm rich, the guy that signs my check is wealthy."
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:04 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:and the owners make 2000x that and try to claim poverty whenever they can soooooooooo
No, fans tend to side with management because at the end of the day, even the lowest paid goddamn player is making more than 95% of this nation make and then they turn around and act as if they’re not compensated well for what they do.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:05 pm to WestCoastAg
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and the owners make 2000x that and try to claim poverty whenever they can soooooooooo
Which owner is claiming he or she is in poverty?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:06 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
They are literally saying they dont have enough money to pay players what they promised soooo
The As literally didnt pay their rent cause they "cant afford it right now"
The As literally didnt pay their rent cause they "cant afford it right now"
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:13 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:Asks the dude who says players keep acting like their compensation isn't high enough lmao. Can't make this stuff up
Which owner is claiming he or she is in poverty?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:13 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:can’t afford doesn’t always mean you don’t have the money
The As literally didnt pay their rent cause they "cant afford it right now"
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:20 pm to ProjectP2294
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Are you saying that sticking to the contracts that were signed is equal to them complaining they aren't paid enough?
Right?
It's like if a dude signs a contract to be paid $20 an hour and you turn around and act like he's greedy because he wants to be paid $20 an hour.
There was a contractually bargained for pay reduction for players in this scenario, and they're asking for that amount.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:21 pm to chalmetteowl
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can’t afford doesn’t always mean you don’t have the money
And negotiating proper value and trying to hold the owners to an agreement they made for your skills doesn’t mean you are greedy
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:26 pm to wildtigercat93
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And negotiating proper value and trying to hold the owners to an agreement they made for your skills doesn’t mean you are greedy
And the owners coming back and saying “hold on, we’re not paying you for services not rendered” doesn’t make them greedy either.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:27 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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And the owners coming back and saying “hold on, we’re not paying you for services not rendered” doesn’t make them greedy either.
Congrats you broke the code
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:31 pm to Covingtontiger77
Have they opened their books the the MLBPA and shown them what the revenue will look like without tickets and concession?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:32 pm to SammyTiger
They sent an incomplete jumbled mess that the union couldn't make heads or tails of
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:38 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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And the owners coming back and saying “hold on, we’re not paying you for services not rendered” doesn’t make them greedy either.
Maybe not, but if they cancel the season so players don't render services, it should be fairly clear who's responsible for no baseball.
The sides have a contract that governs playing. If the owners don't want baseball under the existing contract, the lack of baseball's on them.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:40 pm to ProjectP2294
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Kurt Badenhausen Verified account @kbadenhausen 2 hours ago
MLB owners say they barely made money the past 10 years in their attempts to reduce 2020 player salaries. @Forbes estimates show profits have tripled.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:42 pm to Cocotheape
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I’m sorry, this is the risk you undertake when you own a business. Normal times, extreme times, whatever. Owners can put a virus provision in the next CBA if it’s so crushing to their business.
They can also choose to not have a season.
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They are free to try and renegotiate with the players, of course.
That's what's happening.
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The owners are playing hardball already with their weak (IMO) offer.
maybe. I'm not suggesting the owners get a GREAT deal. I'm suggesting that both parties need to find a fair deal.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:43 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:so if there’s no season the players don’t get paid?
And the owners coming back and saying “hold on, we’re not paying you for services not rendered” doesn’t make them greedy either.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:46 pm to Rep520
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Uh, there is an agreement. Both the players and owners signed it and no one disputes that it would solve this.
What do you mean? Of course the owners are disputing that the current agreement is acceptable.
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The owners just don't like it and are trying to hit reset because it would hurt their pocketbook, despite the fact they already agreed to it.
I think that's reasonable given that they can't operate normally.
I don't think owners should squeeze the players for pennies. But, I also don't think the owners should have to bear the entire hit for the situation we find ourselves in. They definitely shouldn't do that if they'd be better of financially by not having a season.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:47 pm to moneyg
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Of course the owners are disputing that the current agreement is acceptable.
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I think that's reasonable given that they can't operate normally.
I don't think owners should squeeze the players for pennies. But, I also don't think the owners should have to bear the entire hit for the situation we find ourselves in. They definitely shouldn't do that if they'd be better of financially by not having a season.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:48 pm to Cocotheape
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There is no less optimal end for me, I have no personal or financial stake in the popularity level of Major League Baseball.
If you care at all about seeing baseball, there is certainly a less optimal end for you.
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It’s just business, after all. Perhaps your feelings are the problem?
My feelings?
I'm not the one trying to be the arbiter of fairness. I recognize that, logically, the current agreement may not allow the game to be played this year. With that understanding, I think both parties need to step up and find a fair middle ground. Posted on 5/29/20 at 12:49 pm to moneyg
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I'm suggesting that both parties need to find a fair deal.
What's unfair about the previous deal?
It was negotiated under the standard bargaining process, and it's not like the owners don't have adequate representation in that process.
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