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re: Michigan's Kyle Whittingham: "This is unsustainable..."

Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:56 am to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26949 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:56 am to
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I guarantee if you’re one of the biggest donors for a college team you’re figuring out a way to make it back somehow

I do not see how that could reasonably be true with $50M football rosters. Larry Ellison isn’t getting shite back for his investment in Bryce Underwood, for instance.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11893 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:07 am to
pot kettle

Michigan Michigan
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
871 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:13 am to
I like Auburn. And I have no problem with Auburn buying Cam and cheating because, as you said, others were doing it. I’m still pissed that my team didn’t cheat because it cost us 40 years of being competitive with a few good years thrown in (including beating Auburn the last 2 times we played).

My point is to tell your fellow fans to stop whining about the current game today. It was an Auburn fan who said this new system allows him to free up his Saturdays. In other words, now that my team isn’t winning like before the sport sucks, the system sucks, and I’m going to go home. All I’m pointing out is that’s how it’s been for 90% of us for decades and we didn’t leave. If anything, Indiana showed that any small and forgotten fanbase will miraculously grow tenfold by winning. It has nothing to do with being in the SEC or having a 70K stadium. It’s about winning. Indiana fans, who 2 years ago were a small number, took over Mercedes Benz like they were Ohio St or UGA. That’s shows the fans are there and will show up just they did when y’all bought Cam.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46508 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:21 am to
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I absolutely hate what has been done to college football.


You can thank all of the people over the last 5-10 years screaming from the rooftops for the players to get paid.

This was always the inevitable outcome when that much money is involved.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
55810 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 10:34 am to
why is the Michigan coach complaining, they are setting the standard with their deep pockets
they bought a QB that likely won't win Michigan a title

Indiana, Ohio St, and Oregon all have big time $ to dole out
Indiana and Ohio St have titles to prove it and Oregon is not far off

Texas A&M and Texas continue to spend like crazy yet still no titles to show for it

Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1496 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:08 am to
What tangible benefits were boosters getting before NIL?

NIL funding costs more obv, but they got access, suites, brag about being the top backers of a successful D1 team on TV every week, can influence the college to fire coaches and get their name on a building.

that's enough for alot of people.
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 11:10 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41011 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:40 am to
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Being a top NIL donor is just lighting cash on fire. There aren’t even tax benefits.


You must be retarded.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25631 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:44 am to
Oh well. College football doesn’t matter in life. Let it rot
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26949 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:01 pm to
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NIL funding costs more obv,

This is a big deal.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4002 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:52 pm to
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We are headed towards a 32 or so team college super league with salary caps

You then get 16 team playoff out of that league

Literally a college NFL


They should do this but add promotion and relegation. Makes the regular season much more interesting especially at the end. And it allows someone like a boise state or a miami (40 years ago) to break through and join the big boys.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56824 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:59 pm to
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why is the Michigan coach complaining, they are setting the standard with their deep pockets
they bought a QB that likely won't win Michigan a title


Why does it matter who is complaining? Whittingham has nothing to gain by speaking up on the matter. He's just calling it like he sees it. Like we all see it. Does the fact that his job requires him to take advantage of NIL make his opinion invalid? I don't think so.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
871 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:59 pm to
It’s so funny that now posters are lumping Indiana in with the Ohio States and Oregons when 2 years ago you same guys would have laughed at them and their little puny half empty stadium in cold dreary Bloomington, Indiana.

Don’t you guys see how none of us know how this will shake out just like in the old days we had no idea who would win the bidding war for Cam or Reggie Bush. It has always been built on money. Nothing has really changed other than it’s no longer a violation to pay a player which means a lot more teams are willing to do it. And for those who are use to buying players the price has just gone up because demand has increased.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71077 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 1:46 pm to
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Nothing has really changed


Understatement of the century.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20129 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:19 pm to
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You never hear coaches bitch about their ridiculous salaries and buyouts being unsustainable.



They sign multi-year contracts and it isn't killing the sport.

All they need to do is close the free unlimited transfer portal and this will really start to rationalize. 1 free transfer or another if your head coach leaves. Other transfers you must sit out a year.

And giving multiyear NIL deals with clawbacks if they leave.

They want to be treated like professionals, professionals sign contracts they can't get out of.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41011 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:35 pm to
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They sign multi-year contracts


That they can and do break the minute a better offer arises.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20129 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:57 pm to
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That they can and do break the minute a better offer arises.



But there are buyouts. They can't just go shopping for a new job every year without having someone pay their buyout.

I'm fine doing that with NIL.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
871 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:25 pm to
It’s funny some of you attacking the portal instead of attacking your own school spending on players so you put the onus on the players.

What you are really saying is if the players can’t transfer without penalty then it will drive prices down. Which is true, it would. But why not control the spending instead of wanting to control the player?

And the smart fans are starting to see the real issue for the SEC is not NIL, but the portal. I’ve said that from day one that the portal was the bigger issue, but the SEC didn’t see it until it was too late. You may be able to do something about NIL if schools got together, but the portal is not going back because of the courts or if schools simply stop taking transfers.

No one is forced to spend a dime on NIL. Plenty of schools are not using NIL and still fielding teams. I just find it awesome that the people and fans using the portal and spending big NIL are also complaining. It’s like the obese guy at the buffett complaining about his doctor. It’s just awesome to watch.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20129 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:32 pm to
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It’s funny some of you attacking the portal instead of attacking your own school spending on players so you put the onus on the players.

What you are really saying is if the players can’t transfer without penalty then it will drive prices down. Which is true, it would. But why not control the spending instead of wanting to control the player?


There's no real way to limit private industry (boosters) from paying these players what they want. Can't really enforce a salary cap if the money isn't coming directly from the schools. The logical thing to do is restrict player movement so there aren't 10,000 new transfers or whatever it was each year. And again, not entirely stop transferring, just tamp it down a bit.

I'd add that the spending is also only one of the issues with the portal. The other is roster continuity, or lack thereof, really harming the product on the field.
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
871 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:45 pm to
But it’s not harming the product on the field unless you are the one losing players. My team has more talent on our roster than we’ve had in decades and we really anywhere near a top spender.

Like you say that you can’t really stop boosters from spending, the courts and common sense say that you can’t stop a free person from changing schools. The old days are dead and you have to accept that the draconian rules of the NCAA are over. The portal isn’t going anywhere and shouldn’t. If a coach can’t pay and keep his players happy then why should they be punished? Just like scholarships are 1 year renewable contracts so are players commitments. That’s simply the new norm which is why there is ZERO discussion, outside of goober fans, about changing the portal.
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
2282 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 6:32 pm to
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why is the Michigan coach complaining, they are setting the standard with their deep pockets they bought a QB that likely won't win Michigan a title Indiana, Ohio St, and Oregon all have big time $ to dole out Indiana and Ohio St have titles to prove it and Oregon is not far off


What a ridiculous post. I’m pretty sure UM won a natty right before OSU and IU.
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