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re: Luke Heimlich signed by Chinese team, but move will reportedly be denied by league

Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:48 pm to
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Or, is child molestation just one of those crimes that is unforgivable to any degree? 


For now, child molestation is mostly frowned upon.



Mostly?

Maybe in Corvallis but most of us find it repulsive and very disturbing.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:49 pm to
IINM he was a Level 1 offender until the records were sealed last year and everything expunged, which meant he was the lowest-risk for repeat violation. Also IINM all the psych evals and things to that effect around the time of his conviction conveyed he was not a risk to repeat nor was he likely to be a creepy criminal pedophile by any stretch. I’m not gonna relitigate this stuff again but there’s clearly some mitigating, redeeming stuff that should not have made this situation a death sentence for a likely lucrative MLB career, if that ever came to light which it wouldn’t have last August had OR not screwed up prior. Facts don’t care about our feelings.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70582 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:51 pm to
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He is a convicted felon. But does that mean he should NEVER be able to be employed again? Or is that just limited to professional baseball?


It at least applies to professional baseball in Taiwan, as this thread states.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:51 pm to
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Zero tolerance policy!
... And second chances.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:52 pm to
You really want to defend him.

You must be kin or a fellow child diddler yourself.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:53 pm to
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IINM he was a Level 1 offender until the records were sealed last year and everything expunged, which meant he was the lowest-risk for repeat violation.


“I’m not trying to defend him or anything, but...I just know all the details that I think make him look better”

Dude is a child molester plain and simple. MLB teams don’t want the media shite storm and headache
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:56 pm to
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The biggest bullshite in the history of sports, the only reason this is happening to this young man WHO SHOULD BE making millions in the majors is a clerical error by the Oregon state police, I do not feel well for Heimlich


wow. You advocate for child molesters.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:56 pm to
Keep trying to make a child molester look good.

You and pride can be friends.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:57 pm to
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Not defending anything, but no one would've known had it not been for the clerical error and likely no one would ever know once the court records of that case got sealed 2 months after that story broke


holy shite. you're a massive POS
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:58 pm to
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This is interesting to me. Whether the guy actually did what he was accused of or not is irrelevant because in the eyes of the US criminal justice system he admitted that he did (regardless of claims of poor advice, mistake in judgment pleading, etc.).

He is a convicted felon. But does that mean he should NEVER be able to be employed again? Or is that just limited to professional baseball? Certainly private businesses should have the right to decline employment to anyone they choose. But in recent years we've seen a big push, largely from liberals, that employers should no longer even be allowed to ask if an applicant is a convicted felon. So is the outrage just limited to professional baseball? Or, is there going to be outrage anytime he seeks employment in any field? Or, is child molestation just one of those crimes that is unforgivable to any degree?


you're an idiot. It has to do with the fact that whatever team signs him will be viewed negatively and potentially lose money. Or, MLB as a whole has decided as such. Perfectly acceptable.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 2:58 pm to
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You are though. You literally said the ONLY reason this is happening is because of the paper. Not the fact that he fricking molested a child. The only reason the paper was able to release that info is because HE did it in the first place. Shift blame all you want, but it will always come back to the child molester. He is the only one to blame for his karma.


Would we have known about this had OR not screwed up? The conviction occurred 6 years ago, no one in the national media reported on it when he started winning Gatorade HS POY honors, college POY honors and things of that nature, IINM it was public record until last August why didn't people make a stink of it or even raise it until OR screwed up that June? It makes literally zero sense and that screw up cost him millions in MLB money.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:00 pm to
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that screw up cost him millions in MLB money.


no, molesting his niece screwed that up. You're one sick frick. Who cares how and when it was discovered?
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10447 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:00 pm to
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there’s clearly some mitigating, redeeming stuff that should not have made this situation a death sentence for a likely lucrative MLB career


I see that as up to MLB teams. They have a choice about who to draft and offer.

Heimlich can't control the thinking of teams or Oregon making it public. He certainly could have controlled not committing the crime. It's that decision of his that all the rest of this comes from.

Molesting someone...there are certain risks you run.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:01 pm to
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It makes literally zero sense and that screw up cost him millions in MLB money.


Karma....biatch!

Eta....just a minor point, it was Benton county sheriff's dept that screwed up, not Oregon.

This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:01 pm to
A child molester in Asia. What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79366 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:04 pm to
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The biggest bullshite in the history of sports, the only reason this is happening to this young man WHO SHOULD BE making millions in the majors is a clerical error by the Oregon state police, I do not feel well for Heimlich


I wonder if he is suing them as we speak
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70582 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:10 pm to
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The biggest bullshite in the history of sports, the only reason this is happening to this young man WHO SHOULD BE making millions in the majors is a clerical error by the Oregon state police, I do not feel well for Heimlich


This is more bullshite than when black people couldn't participate in different professional league or at different universities just because they were black?

Really? A convicted pedophile being shunned is more bullshite than that?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171080 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:16 pm to
Christ dude. The blame rests on him. There would be no news article about it if he hadn’t molested a girl from the time she was 4 until she was 6.

Karma is a bitch.

At least pride denies it ever happened instead of your sick rationalization.
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 3:18 pm
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16652 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Not defending anything, but no one would've known had it not been for the clerical error and likely no one would ever know once the court records of that case got sealed 2 months after that story broke


Nobody gives a shite how the story came out. He pleaded guilty to finger banging a toddler. That’s not defendable.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111155 posts
Posted on 8/7/18 at 3:20 pm to
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The biggest bullshite in the history of sports
Holy overreaction!
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