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Louisiana High School - Select vs. Non-Select?
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:36 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 6:36 am
Question about the classifications. Moved away from Louisiana 25 years ago when we had 1-A thru AAAA. Why the split and how do you know who the true champion is in each class? If Karr, Curtis, Rummel, etc. were to win the select, how do you know if they're better than Destrehan, West Monroe, Hahnville, etc?
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 6:38 am
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:29 am to Tdubs7
John Curtis is the reason for the split and anyone who says anything different is lying. The blatant recruiting, living with coaches etc they were doing far exceeded anyone else and the public schools got pissed off.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 7:39 am to SaintNation
All private schools recruit students. The govt is not paying the student’s tuition so they actually have to convince people to go there and someone has to pay for them to attend.
The charter schools are the ones with the biggest advantage. They can cherry pick and tuition is covered.
Imo JC’s biggest advantage (outside of really caring about sports and that pride is deeply entrenched through out the school) is their middle school. Those kids are leaning the JC offense starting in 4th grade. Come senior year those kids have been in the same system for almost a decade.
The charter schools are the ones with the biggest advantage. They can cherry pick and tuition is covered.
Imo JC’s biggest advantage (outside of really caring about sports and that pride is deeply entrenched through out the school) is their middle school. Those kids are leaning the JC offense starting in 4th grade. Come senior year those kids have been in the same system for almost a decade.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 8:13 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 8:26 am to Tdubs7
It has led to very watered down state titles. Take 5A non-select. No private schools to compete against, many of the stronger 5A public schools like Acadiana and Carencro play in the select bracket, and now they mix in 4A schools in the 5A playoff bracket.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 9:55 am to Tdubs7
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how do you know who the true champion is in each class?
The selects would win 9 out of 10 times over the non-selects.
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If Karr, Curtis, Rummel, etc. were to win the select, how do you know if they're better than Destrehan, West Monroe, Hahnville, etc?
Karr would run the table.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:03 am to SaintNation
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John Curtis is the reason for the split and anyone who says anything different is lying. The blatant recruiting, living with coaches etc they were doing far exceeded anyone else and the public schools got pissed off.
Evangel actually was the breaking point. Curtis stayed in 4A and let the 5A schools have their fun. Evangel started beating West Monroe and they just couldn't take it.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:06 am to YouKnowImRight
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Curtis stayed in 4A
They said they did so for their girls programs but we all know those were winning state too
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:16 am to YouKnowImRight
quote:nah the split happened years after Curtis/Evangel moved down.
Evangel actually was the breaking point. Curtis stayed in 4A and let the 5A schools have their fun. Evangel started beating West Monroe and they just couldn't take it.
Good ole Jess Curtis at Many (who essentially recruits as well) threw a fit about Curtis being in 2A and the initial split happened but it wasn’t as watered down, then the Willie Allen situation escalated things and it was full fledged split for a decade and now it seems like the playoffs have some juice back. Still nothing near pre split level but the combining of classifications at least makes it so there’s not like 10 teams in each bracket.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:30 am to Tdubs7
It’s the everybody gets a trophy generation…
Teams with like 4 wins making bball playoffs… half of some brackets get byes first round…it’s stupid
Teams with like 4 wins making bball playoffs… half of some brackets get byes first round…it’s stupid
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:39 am to Tdubs7
the better public schools teams moved to the select playoff bracket
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:42 am to PP7 for heisman
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nah the split happened years after Curtis/Evangel moved down.
Good ole Jess Curtis at Many (who essentially recruits as well) threw a fit about Curtis being in 2A and the initial split happened but it wasn’t as watered down, then the Willie Allen situation escalated things and it was full fledged split for a decade and now it seems like the playoffs have some juice back. Still nothing near pre split level but the combining of classifications at least makes it so there’s not like 10 teams in each bracket.
this...fricking this. after the "play in class" rule was passed the small schools pitched a fit. demanded action and that is how we got to where we are today
the most ironic part is...because Many is the only school in that parish that has football, any kid in the parish can go play there. they essentially pull players from the same number of boys as the bigger 5a schools do.
I fricking hate Many for that specific reason
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:48 am to PP7 for heisman
quote:They were forced down by the 4A and 5A schools that didn't want to play them, so they sent them down to beat up on all of the 2A and 1A schools by not allowing schools to play up. The split happened because you had 4A and 5A schools who were cheating and didn't have the titles to show for it, or as many titles to show for it, so they sent teams they couldn't beat or at least would lose to more often than not and sent them to play against lower competition. Then you had 1A and 2A teams with generational teams that would lose by 40 in the quarters to Curtis and/or Evangel, so then the split happened.
nah the split happened years after Curtis/Evangel moved down.
I don't blame these small one stoplight town schools pushing for the split because the bigger programs gave them a problem they couldn't handle.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 11:49 am
Posted on 11/20/25 at 11:50 am to Tdubs7
All I can say is, Rummel won the last real 5A state championship when they beat Barbe in '12...
Posted on 11/20/25 at 12:09 pm to Hangover Haven
It's stupid that Bunkie is in a district with other public schools like Marksville, Jena, etc but come playoff time, they have to go play badass private schools because they're 'magnet'.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 12:28 pm to TigerAlum93
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It has led to very watered down state titles
Yap. They mean nothing
Posted on 11/20/25 at 12:43 pm to Hangover Haven
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All I can say is, Rummel won the last real 5A state championship when they beat Barbe in '12...
Raidas to Da Dome!!
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:05 pm to STEVED00
had to do split so catholic high could finally win a state championship in fb
Posted on 11/20/25 at 1:05 pm to STEVED00
had to do split so catholic high could finally win a state championship in fb
Posted on 11/20/25 at 2:10 pm to TigerAlum93
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y TigerAlum93It has led to very watered down state titles. Take 5A non-select. No private schools to compete against, many of the stronger 5A public schools like Acadiana and Carencro play in the select bracket, and now they mix in 4A schools in the 5A playoff bracket.
This isn’t exactly accurate. They still have a lot of strong teams in 5A such as West Monroe, Neville, Ruston, Central, Destrehan, Zachary, Hahnville, etc. With that said, it’s certainly impacted the qualify of play in 5A, but they still have plenty of talent in non select.
Posted on 11/20/25 at 2:19 pm to Tdubs7
I’ll hear an argument for the lower divisions but there is no reason to still have the split at the 5A/D1 level
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