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re: Let’s put the Jordan/LeBron debate to rest
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:25 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:25 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Nobody is taking LeBron over Jordan unless they're mental and don't like winning.
He can play all 5 positions at an elite level on both ends of the court.
Jordan can't.
So yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and take LeBron over MJ.
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Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:25 pm to Green Chili Tiger
OH MY GOD 
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:31 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:But we know you and cptbengal would choose MJ and you’re both all in on false flag mass shootings conspiracies so maybe the MJ/LBJ choice isn’t the best litmus test for one’s psychological well-being.
unless they're mental
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:35 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
No shite MJ won, you nerd
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:40 pm to ReauxlTide222
Those are their efficiency ratings based on the 100 games before the finals dumbass
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:48 pm to TechDawg2007
And MJ sat out 2 years in the middle of his prime
Its really not even a contest
Its really not even a contest
Posted on 6/1/18 at 6:53 pm to sgallo3
What?
Posted on 6/1/18 at 7:04 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
The best team Jordan ever faced has a worse Net Efficiency Rating than the worst team Lebron has faced.
Wow.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:09 pm to RobbBobb
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And MJ sat out 2 years in the middle of his prime
Its really not even a contest
On what fricking planet is this a net positive for MJ?
He literally quit the sport and people like him even more for it.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:14 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Nobody is taking LeBron over Jordan unless they're mental and don't like winning.
If you are stuck in the 4-8 seed and a scorer away you take MJ
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:19 pm to slackster
Yeah MJ quitting basketball in no way helps his argument as the goat
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:23 pm to TechDawg2007
quote:
Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY
Still one of the craziest things in American sports history. It's the equivalent of an NFL player leading the league in offensive touchdowns and winning DPOY as well.
The skill and endurance required to be that good every night on both ends is ridiculous.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:26 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
The best team Jordan ever faced has a worse Net Efficiency Rating than the worst team Lebron has faced.
Any stat that says the 2011 Mavericks or 2012 Thunder were better teams than the 1996 Sonics or the 1997-1998 Jazz is a worthless stat.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:28 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Nobody is taking LeBron over Jordan unless they're mental and don't like winning.
We can argue the two as who is better I guess, but most would all agree Lebron is more versatile. In addition, Lebron has spent his career playing more difficult defensive schemes than Jordan.
Would you really argue about taking the 6’8 260 lb player who can play all over the court (post up, shoot from outside, drive, guard basically anyone), never gets hurt, and never gets tired?
What part of Lebron’s game would someone improve? Make him an inch taller and longer? Make him shoot a slightly higher FT%? At this point Lebron is basically the perfect video game specimen.
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:32 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Do you know what net efficiency is?
Any stat that says the 2011 Mavericks or 2012 Thunder were better teams than the 1996 Sonics or the 1997-1998 Jazz is a worthless stat.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:36 pm to ReauxlTide222
It's the difference in points scored and points given up per 100 possessions. It's a stat with very little significance comparatively across eras and is ultimately worthless if you're using it to call one team better than another from decades prior.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 8:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Still one of the craziest things in American sports history.
quote:
It's the equivalent of an NFL player leading the league in offensive touchdowns and winning DPOY as well.
See, an NFL player doing that actually WOULD be one of the craziest things in American sports history. Since you know, NFL players don't generally play offense and defense.
Every basketball player plays both offense and defense. Someone like Anthony Davis has s legit chance to accomplish this in the next few years.
It's very impressive and a great accomplishment. But you can stop the hyperbole now.
This post was edited on 6/1/18 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:00 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Still one of the craziest things in American sports history. It's the equivalent of an NFL player leading the league in offensive touchdowns and winning DPOY as well.
The skill and endurance required to be that good every night on both ends is ridiculous.
He played when you just guarded your man. Basketball was SO easy for elite players back then.
He never had to run guys off the line for 48 minutes. Was switching a thing then? I don't even know.
Guys now have multiple assignments every play and have to close out on everything because 8 out of 10 players on the court can shoot.
What Jordan had to do on defense to be considered great at it is a complete joke
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:04 pm to TechDawg2007
quote:rings are won by teams, not individual players.
•3 more rings
If rings matter, then Robert Horry is better than both.
Posted on 6/1/18 at 9:16 pm to airfernando
quote:
If rings matter, then Robert Horry is better than both.
This is such a nonsense argument. If the number of championships was the only achievement given in the OP, then I could agree with you. However there are plenty of “individual” achievements on MJ’s resume along with his team achievements that put plenty of distance between MJ and Horry.
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