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re: Kiper's new mock draft: Josh Allen #1 to Browns

Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140859 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:23 pm to
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Is Ridley really a top ten draft pick?


Should not be, Sutton and Washington are the better WR.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26505 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:27 pm to
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Perfect scenario for them is
Draft Barkley 1, Get Allen at 4, get one of the Tackles at 1 in 2nd, then just load the Defense. In Free Agency get a QB like Smith to groom Allen and in 2 years it is his show. But as I said, it makes too much sense for the Browns to do that.



What value does a RB have at the number one draft pick? That's a wasted pick.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72121 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:30 pm to
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What value does a RB have at the number one draft pick? That's a wasted pick.


I feel like Barkley more of a luxury pick myself.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15646 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:42 pm to
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I don't like any of these quarterbacks enough to take at #1. Allen, even less so


Browns better hope a couple of QBs have a great combine so a demand is created for their 1st pick. Then they can trade out of #1 and continue stockpiling 1st & 2nd round picks.

Sooner or later they’re going to have to pull the trigger on a QB at the top of the draft. Their strategy of reaching for a second tier QB later in the 1st (Weeden, Manziel) or taking a flyer on a QB in the 2nd/3rd round isn’t working.

I don’t think this is the year to use a Top 5 pick on a QB.
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26505 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 4:43 pm to
This draft has Barkley, Guice, Michel, Chubb, Ronald Jones, & Kerryon.

I personally can't say that Barkley is head and shoulders above Guice, Michel or Chubb.

From a value perspective, if the Browns do not take a top QB or pick the best lineman with the number one pick...then they should trade out and start their pick at number 4.
Posted by A$AP Cocky
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Member since Jun 2013
4406 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:57 pm to
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why would the panthers take an oline? the poster two weeks ago seemed confident the line was not an issue


Whoever said that is a fool. We need help up front
Posted by A$AP Cocky
:^)
Member since Jun 2013
4406 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 5:59 pm to
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mean Ryan Kalil was injured, I think he's still a top 5 center healthy


He's missed a lot of games the past two years and he's not got much time left in the league
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
13465 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 6:56 pm to
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Kiper's

Lost me there.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92839 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 7:39 pm to
Quentin Nelson
Baker Mayfield
Roquan Smith

Players I want Denver to choose from to draft.

Need QB help, need OL help, and help up the gut in the 34 defense from a player that can play all 3 downs.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7669 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 10:39 pm to
I feel like the Browns would be better off if they would stick with a QB and try to develop him instead of taking one every year and being stuck starting a rookie like they’ve done the past couple.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48384 posts
Posted on 1/18/18 at 11:01 pm to
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josh allen could only go to the browns, crash and burn


My guess is they'd bring in Alex Smith for a year or 2 so Allen doesn't have to start right away
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25464 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 2:59 am to
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Breaking News: Browns are in talks with Browns on moving the 4 pick for the 1 pick of the NFL Draft


And they will somehow mismanage the trade talks and end up forfieting both picks.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38444 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:16 am to
That would suck to go from Wyoming to Cleveland
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13046 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:16 am to
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Before Kiper had him #1, I thought this would be a steal and slam dunk for the browns because not many drafts had Allen in the top 10 before now.


I've read this 3 or 4 times and still don't understand it.

How would Allen be a "steal" at #4 if no one had him in the Top 10 before now?
Posted by Buckeye Backer
Columbus, Ohio
Member since Aug 2009
9503 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:35 am to
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This draft has Barkley, Guice, Michel, Chubb, Ronald Jones, & Kerryon.


The best RB in this draft might be Rashaad Penny from San Diego State. Guy is an absolute beast!!!

THIS SEASON:

2248 Yards Rushing and 23 TDs
19 Rec for 235 yards and 2 TDs

CAREER:

3643 Yards Rushing and 38 TDs
42 Rec for 479 Yard and 6 TDs


This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 5:42 am
Posted by cardswinagain
Member since Jun 2013
13387 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 6:01 am to
I fail to believe Lamar Jackson will not go somewhere in the 1st Rd. It's not his fault the defense was awful all season
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 6:04 am
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
2360 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:05 pm to
Before the season he was slated at #1 by a lot of people and he didn't have a bad season.
Posted by sammy762
Idaho
Member since Apr 2016
580 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:48 pm to
ya but he didn't even win the mwc. padded a shitload of stats at home against teams not used to playing at 7k ft in --8 wind chills. sure he had to play in that too but christ he isn't even worthy of mention of #1 and I watched all is games. He's also from my hometown. These fricking people get paid to make a living at this?
Posted by sammy762
Idaho
Member since Apr 2016
580 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:50 pm to
Penny is great no doubt but he will get snapped in half by the bye week. fricking fresno state completely shut him down

eta: if he goes to the right team with a great line and stays healthy he might be a fantasy stud. I'm only worried about his durability. He could be another Faulk
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70587 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 7:08 pm to
Key has Randy Gregory written all over him.
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