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Jury acquits Shawn Oakman of sexual assault charges

Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:56 pm
Posted by HeLeakin
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:56 pm
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WACO, Texas (KWTX) Jurors returned a not guilty verdict Thursday afternoon in the sexual assault trial of former Baylor standout Shawn Oakman.
Oakman was accused of raping another student in 2016.

Deliberations got underway just after 2 p.m.

Jurors returned the verdict just after 4:30 p.m.

Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:57 pm to
Jury intimidation guaranteed

Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 4:57 pm to
Only two players from Baylor have been found guilty.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:00 pm to




Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:03 pm to
Rape is always incredibly difficult to prove without DNA evidence.

It’s harsh I admit, but I’m an advocate for all rape allegations without DNA evidence or an independent eyewitness being dismissed outright. It’s the only way to deal with them in a judicial system based on a presumption of innocence.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:04 pm to
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Only two players from Baylor have been found guilty.



Congrats?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:05 pm to
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Only two players
wow, only two?
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:06 pm to
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Congrats?


Well the way ESPN handled the story you would think the team raped and pillaged the city of Waco. Pretty odd how this story has completely disappeared as well.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:07 pm to
Does this mean LSU can hire Art Briles as OC now?
Posted by BeYou
DFW
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:21 pm to
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Only two players from Baylor have been found guilty.


Two too many. You are right though that ESPN painted this as the entire football team was full of rapists.

Tevin Elliot is a TPOS and deserves to be in jail.

Remind me on the Sam U case again though. Found guilty, appellate court overturned the conviction, then another appellate court upheld the conviction?
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 5:25 pm to
Yes, Sam U was found guilty, had it overturned and later the guilty verdict was reinstated

And I agree that Elliott should rot for life and not 20 years.

The Board of Regents are also scum. My problem is that the team, who had a lot of innocent people on it, was scapegoated and punished unfairly. There were bad eggs, but it was not nearly as bad as the media portrayed and they destroyed the program for a lot of shite the regents did.
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 5:27 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:23 pm to
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It’s harsh I admit, but I’m an advocate for all rape allegations without DNA evidence or an independent eyewitness being dismissed outright. It’s the only way to deal with them in a judicial system based on a presumption of innocence.

How does this have 8 downvotes? A he-said, she-said case should always be a not guilty based on the burden of proof in a criminal trial.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:33 pm to
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How does this have 8 downvotes? A he-said, she-said case should always be a not guilty based on the burden of proof in a criminal trial.



Well that's dumb.

DNA is not the only evidence that matters, for starters. Secondly, not all word is created equal.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:38 pm to
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Secondly, not all word is created equal.

It doesn't have to be equal. I can believe the accuser far more than the accused, but if that's the only evidence, I'm acquitting the Defendant, because the beyond a reasonable doubt standard cannot be met imo. Putting someone in prison based solely on a statement from a victim is precisely how innocent men spend 30+ years in prison for crimes they didn't commit.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:49 pm to
Law makers in Missouri are going to make sure, when a title 9 case is brought on, that the accused gets every chance to get representation and be able to defend himself.


MANY times, the accused are thrown out of school, with even shaky evidence, w/o even building a defense. Law will make sure they get a fair shake, before being thrown out of school.

Law isn't to protect rapist, it's to make sure both sides are heard. Virginia dealio is a perfect example of accused never getting a fair shake, until he got a lawyer involved.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 2/28/19 at 7:51 pm to
Too bad he was a total wanna be hardass in the 2015 cotton bowl
This post was edited on 2/28/19 at 8:09 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42474 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:31 pm to
This is still an issue, but not nearly as big of an issue if there wasn’t a coverup of sorts involved and if the University just listened to the women that came forward in the first place.

Saying only two people were guilty is true, but there were multiple reported offenses.
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2085 posts
Posted on 2/28/19 at 9:49 pm to
Makes one wonder if any weren't reported with the culture that was allowed to persist there. Sucks for the student athletes that suffered for it, but the program seems to be headed in the right direction again. Baylor shook things up in the Big 12 for a while and you know the school in Austin got tired of losing to them. Maybe that played into it, maybe not. Baylor seemed fine playing henchman for them when A&M left for the SEC.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:55 am to
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Only two players from Baylor have been found guilty.
Print the shirts and hang the banners!!!
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:09 am to
He looks like a transformer.
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