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Indiana is not only the only Conference champion left in the playoff

Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:01 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:01 am
They are also the only conf champ game participant remaining.

College football, oh what happened to thee
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:05 am to
14 years ago we were all incensed that a team that didn't win its conference was competing in the BCS National Championship Game. Now look at where we are.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:05 am to
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we were all incensed that a team that didn't win its conference was competing in the BCS National Championship Game


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RollTide1987


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:06 am to
All we currently have is an end of year tournament. Honestly that’s all any playoff is. People are tricked into thinking more playoff teams ensures you find the “best team”. No, you find the team that played the best in that tournament. What made college football special for so long was it was the sport that did the best job of crowning the team that was the best over an entire season

MLB used to be that way as well before all the wild cards
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:07 am to
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14 years ago we were all incensed that a team that didn't win its conference was competing in the BCS National Championship Game.
I’ll die on that hill that there shouldn’t have been a rematch
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:14 am to
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I’ll die on that hill that there shouldn’t have been a rematch


You’re right. It should have been Alabama vs. Oklahoma State.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:20 am to
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What made college football special for so long was it was the sport that did the best job of crowning the team that was the best over an entire season
the problem is there are too many teams, which leads to a shite ton of subjectivity to decide the bolded part.
12 might be too big, but that doesn't mean 2 was not fricked, too.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:21 am to
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14 years ago we were all incensed that a team that didn't win its conference was competing in the BCS National Championship Game. Now look at where we are.


That team was handed a spot in the top 2. The remaining teams that didn’t participate in their conference championships this season will have had to win 3 games just to make that spot.

Do you really not see the difference?
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 9:23 am
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:31 am to
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the problem is there are too many teams, which leads to a shite ton of subjectivity to decide the bolded part.

Exactly what I've always said. And for most of major college football's history, it didn't always pit who voters believed were #1 and #2 against each other at the end of the season.

If Michigan was #1 and the Big Ten Champ, they were going to the Rose. If Florida State was #2 and the ACC Champ, then they were going to the Orange. There was no "national championship". If Michigan won the Rose and the voters said they were #1, guess what? They were the national championship. It didn't matter what their schedule actually looked like or who they beat--X number of writers said they were #1, so they were.

Even under the BCS, human perception played a huge role in who played in the NCG. Oklahoma slDtate was over Alabama in every computer ranking except 2, but Alabama was over Ok State in both human polls--so Bama got the nod.

Neither of those systems was great at telling you who was actually #1. Hell, even the playoff isn't, but if this "proves" anything, it's that it's all subjective. Being a "Conference Champion" doesn't mean what people want to think it does.

Honestly, a playoff without NIL would have been interesting to see. I think as time goes on, 12 won't seem like too many (as long as they quit giving spots to G5 teams just to be nice). In fact, there will probably come a time where there's more of a debate about teams getting left out, and it will expand again.

It should, because honestly bowl season sucks now. Get rid of half of these crap bowls, and quit letting ESPN monopolize the games. Something just isn't right about a New Year's Day where the Rose Bowl isn't on ABC.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:42 am to
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You’re right. It should have been Alabama vs. Oklahoma State.

You’re truly retarded if you think that.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12650 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:44 am to
Because there are so many teams in conferences now, the schedules are very different . So making a conference championship and even winning a conference is highly dependent on getting a good draw on the schedule. Without looking, id bet most of the teams that made conference championships had very favorable schedules compared to the rest of the conference.

This has always been the case somewhat, but its magnified when you have huge conferences. Pretty much nullifies the point in even having conferences.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 9:46 am
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:46 am to
Muh BCS though

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This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 9:47 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:00 am to
Man, BYU at Oregon and Notre Dame and Oklahoma would have been much better games than what we got with Tulane and JMU.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:04 am to
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14 years ago we were all incensed that a team that didn't win its conference was competing in the BCS National Championship Game.

I’ll die on that hill that there shouldn’t have been a rematch

The only argument killer is that Alabama shut out LSU in that game. If that ended up being a very close game, this would've been a nonstop controversy.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:08 am to
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would have been much better games than what we got with Tulane and JMU.


Does it matter though?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51207 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:12 am to
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Does it matter though?


How does it not? Give me the best teams and stop with the inclusion nonsense.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20833 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:18 am to
I keep seeing this get posted, but no one ever considers the human element of the BCS standings. Under the current system, the voters simply flipped Indiana & OSU after the bowl games (rightfully so). Under the old BCS system, they would have dropped OSU to 3 and put UGA at 2. That difference would have easily made up the 0.0116 gap, and we would have had Indiana vs UGA

Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
16598 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:23 am to
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How does it not?


It doesn’t affect the results, but I guess you get better 1st round games. Who cares

Oregon wins. Notre Dame loses to Indiana.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14498 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:24 am to
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14 years ago we were all incensed that a team that didn't win its conference was competing in the BCS National Championship Game. Now look at where we are.


Yeah, well y’all shouldn’t have been there.
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
6363 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:32 am to
3 weeks off will do that to you. Indiana was successful because Cignetti makes his practices more intense then the games
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