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re: I was going to post this on the Soccer Board...but it's too good for that.

Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

gaining traction


I like soccer. I watch it and my kids have played it for years. However, it's been gaining traction for 30 years and has never quite gotten traction.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:12 pm to
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But it's a better paced game than anything America has to offer. So the "slow-paced" argument is really fricking retarded.


Maybe, but...

quote:

Soccer match ... 2 hours.

Football: 3 1/2 hours
Baseball: 3 hours
Hockey: 2 1/2 hours
Basketball: 2 1/2 hours


Is a terrible fricking argument.

The new sport of "Watching Paint Dry" only takes 1 1/2 hours, but it doesn't mean it is a better paced game.

I personally believe soccer and baseball run a very tight race for most boring sport to watch on TV, and I played baseball.

I think basketball is the best paced sport but I would still rather watch football. To each his own.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84313 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

I like soccer. I watch it and my kids have played it for years. However, it's been gaining traction for 30 years and has never quite gotten traction.


Only the past decade really counts since the modern media era (satelites, cable, internet, etc) has finally brought the best soccer (European leagues including the EPL and La Liga) to American eyes. It is a great sport, whether you choose to watch it or not.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Member since Dec 2008
32893 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

He's basically trying to say "all of you soccer fans adore this sport...but it must not be that great since it's losing money. It's losing money because it can't earn it's keep with revenue (ticket sales, tv ads, etc). Therefore, it must not be in high demand and/or that popular"


That is exactly what I got out of the original post as well.

The reason why teams are losing money is painfully obvious. With the exception of a small handful of owners, no one is in the game to make a profit. When you're paying $40 million transfer fees for a guy to sit on the bench, there is basically no financial model that will ensure profitability.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
21025 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:16 pm to
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So why don't poor Americans play it?


Those that reside in inner cities turn to basketball, which is another sport to play on a very small budget. Ball + hoop + pole + concrete
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89811 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:16 pm to
8 epl teams turned profit, owners are spending too much money. If you notice, tv stations that broadcast epl games outside of uk, are making a killing. What do u think would happen if the nfl didnt have a cap? Youd be seeing way more teams going bankrupt and more turnover in ownership. Has nothing to do with popularity, if anything thats why they spend too much, to satisfy fans all over the world.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:17 pm to
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30 years and has never quite gotten traction.


The average MLS in-game attendance has already surpassed the NBA and NHL, and it's closing in fast on MLB.

TV contracts on the otherhand....

When you think about the number of youth that play the sport, and the ever increasing rate of latin american immigration into the United States, it's not too far fetched to believe we could see soccer become the number 2 sport in this country within our lifetime.
Posted by IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
Team 31™
Member since Nov 2008
25971 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:18 pm to
Winning, to an extent, is possible on a budget. Newcastle United made 32M this year after a series of smart buys boosted them to a 5th place finish in the Premier League & just outside of Champions League qualification ... where the real money is, as you & I know.

It can be done ... but the culture of the sport has exceeded that. Hopefully, Financial Fair Play does something to curb it, but it's doubtful.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:19 pm to
I hope soccer gets hugely popular in the U.S.

But it's like the Metric system. People have been predicting it will finally take over for decades and it never does.

It will never be popular, in my opinion, until MLS becomes popular. Watching a foreign pro league is not the answer for domestic popularity.
Posted by Unbiased Bama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2950 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

I think basketball is the best paced sport but I would still rather watch football.


Basketball's actually an awfully paced sport with all the stoppages in action due to personal fouls and the final minute of games is unwatchable with all the free throws and timeouts taken. Baseball isn't that bad except when there are fast runners on base and the pitcher throws over to 1st base 70 times to shorten their lead or stop and start their delivery a bunch of times. Also, the number of TV timeouts and stoppages in the first half of NFL games makes watching the games on TV a miserable experience. The best-paced sport has to be hockey. It's fast-paced, free-flowing and there are only a few stoppages in a period. It's really a breath of fresh air compared to other sports.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:23 pm to
Not to mention American sports (Which I love) bend their knee to commercial enterprise, namely, TV commercials.

The fact you can watch television for 45 minutes, and not be reminded 15 times about Taco bell's latest menu item, is in and of itself, a breath of fresh air.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32814 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:24 pm to
Soccer needs to go ahead and appease Americans. They need to change their name officially to "soccer" and start scoring each goal as 7 points. That will win over American fans and kill the boring argument for good.....
Posted by IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
Team 31™
Member since Nov 2008
25971 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Soccer needs to go ahead and appease Americans. They need to change their name officially to "soccer" and start scoring each goal as 7 points. That will win over American fans and kill the boring argument for good.....



I SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32814 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:27 pm to
The thing that really sucks about hockey is having 2 long arse halftimes. That shite takes foreverrrr
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:28 pm to
Meh.

Americans love baseball, which is a very slow paced game that quite often has 1-0 scores.

People complain about a 1-0 scoreline in soccer but praise a 1-0 scoreline in baseball. Why? Because they are familiar with baseball and take an antagonistic, jingoistic attitude toward soccer for some reason.
Posted by Anfield Road
Home of the Blue Turf
Member since May 2012
1948 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:35 pm to
Soccer leagues (outside of the US) are the epitome of free market capitalism. Salary caps are socialist. There's nothing more American than free market capitalism. Thus, free markets = America. English Premier League = free markets. Hating the EPL = Hating America. Why do you hate America?
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Why do you hate America


Why was Obama elected?



Just kidding.
Posted by TulaneUVA
Member since Jun 2005
26226 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:39 pm to
Great second post
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:42 pm to
All sports need a salary cap or some kind of restraint.

A sports league is not the same as a business market.
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