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re: I was going to post this on the Soccer Board...but it's too good for that.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:40 pm to engvol
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:40 pm to engvol
quote:
Like someone said earlier, people who buy top clubs arent in it to make profit...unless they plan on gutting the team.
There is a tipping point though
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Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:43 pm to Sophandros
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Full stop.
Closet limey alert.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:43 pm to Spoonie Luv
Ehhhh ... I just think for non-fans it's a matter of ignorance. But it's a better paced game than anything America has to offer. So the "slow-paced" argument is really fricking retarded.
Soccer match ... 2 hours.
Football: 3 1/2 hours
Baseball: 3 hours
Hockey: 2 1/2 hours
Basketball: 2 1/2 hours
Like I said .... the "dumb American" ignorance contributes more than anything imo.
Soccer match ... 2 hours.
Football: 3 1/2 hours
Baseball: 3 hours
Hockey: 2 1/2 hours
Basketball: 2 1/2 hours
Like I said .... the "dumb American" ignorance contributes more than anything imo.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:44 pm to Spoonie Luv
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I like how soccer fans think that because it's popular, it's so great.
No one thinks that. We think that's so great and ipso facto it is popular.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:45 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
quote:
Soccer match ... 2 hours.
Football: 3 1/2 hours
Baseball: 3 hours
Hockey: 2 1/2 hours
Basketball: 2 1/2 hours
The Bill Simmons case for soccer.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:47 pm to jacks40
quote:
I didn't see popularity mentioned anywhere in the OP's post.
He said "if soccer is so awesome why is this happening"
He's basically trying to say "all of you soccer fans adore this sport...but it must not be that great since it's losing money. It's losing money because it can't earn it's keep with revenue (ticket sales, tv ads, etc). Therefore, it must not be in high demand and/or that popular"
Maybe I deduced more from this post than I should have, but I expect the worst from you idiots who bash soccer
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:49 pm to RonBurgundy
I understand I won't change anyone's minds ... but it's pretty cut & dry. I don't always have time to watch a full football game. But with soccer playing early Saturday & Sunday mornings when it's in season, I have time to sit down & watch that. And once you know the rules, what's actually going on, etc., it's a very good sport. And this is coming from someone who did not grow up playing.
But we'll agree to disagree ...
But we'll agree to disagree ...
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:52 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
It's the "most popular," "most played" sport (or whatever you all like to call it) because it is a poor sport. Plain and simple.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:55 pm to Spoonie Luv
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it is a poor sport.
Imagine that ... not everyone is as spoiled as the United States so they play a sport that isn't American. THE frickING HORROR OF IT ALL.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:56 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
I didn't say anything about nations here.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:58 pm to Spoonie Luv
I interpret a "poor sport" as a sport that can be played by poor people. Which yes, football is. I'm sure you're trying to make a supersonic soccer boom again though.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 1:58 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
quote:
Imagine that ... not everyone is as spoiled as the United States so they play a sport that isn't American. THE frickING HORROR OF IT ALL.
So why don't poor Americans play it?
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:00 pm to RonBurgundy
This is pretty shocking. How the hell did MU lose 300+ million dollars?? I just read a forbes article that said it was the most valuable team in the world. Guess they just made that up.
ETA-never mind I read that wrong. Manchester City lost 300 mil and MU made a whopping 19 million. Still, my point stands.
ETA-never mind I read that wrong. Manchester City lost 300 mil and MU made a whopping 19 million. Still, my point stands.
This post was edited on 5/25/12 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:00 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
By poor sport, I mean it can basically be played without much investment into it. You also don't need to have a really big number of players. All of this combines to make it easily accessible.
So if you are a kid growing up with 2 options (no sports or socer), you'll paly soccer.
So if you are a kid growing up with 2 options (no sports or socer), you'll paly soccer.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:00 pm to LSUMJ
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Sheikh Mansourn- estimated individual net worth of at least £17 billion with a family fortune of at least $1 trillion
As previously said, for some, it's a hobby, not a money making venture.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:01 pm to RonBurgundy
because it isn't in our culture. We're far too pretentious of a country and American Football is more a part of our culture. It's simple ... we invented stuff like the NFL & baseball ... so that's what our kids have been raised on. It's more a part of our culture.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:03 pm to Spoonie Luv
quote:
By poor sport, I mean it can basically be played without much investment into it. You also don't need to have a really big number of players. All of this combines to make it easily accessible.
So if you are a kid growing up with 2 options (no sports or socer), you'll paly soccer.
Point taken,
But if it's such an "awful sport", then why is it gaining traction here in the States?
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:06 pm to Tennessee Jed
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The economics of our two seperate sports worlds are pretty comical. European Soccer is purely free market capitalism, with American Sports trending towards Marxism.
Most interesting post in this thread.
The poor financials of the soccer clubs are more of a statement against free market capitalism than they are against the sport of soccer.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:06 pm to IAmTheHatOnMilesHead
I'm not at all bashing soccer.
I was just readingt hrough the thread and saw people praising it simply because a lot of people watched.
I was just coming in to point out a poor argument. I don't think I've ever really been involved in a soccer board debate, or argued against soccer.
I was just readingt hrough the thread and saw people praising it simply because a lot of people watched.
I was just coming in to point out a poor argument. I don't think I've ever really been involved in a soccer board debate, or argued against soccer.
Posted on 5/25/12 at 2:07 pm to RonBurgundy
I don't understand how it's even possible to pay those monstrous transfer fees AND pay player wages and not lose a shitload of money. There needs to be something about the transfer system.
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