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re: I know it’s cliche, but our best athletes would dominate Soccer.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:47 pm to _Hurricane_
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:47 pm to _Hurricane_
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Yes I’m sure that fricking Bo Jackson could never be near the player that some random Norwegian is if he started playing soccer at 14. He just couldn’t figure out how to deal with Jurgen Bunblefrick who is 5’8 145 pounds.
Skip to 1:50.
It's not about being a better athlete. I truly believe the US has the better athletes overall but you can't pick up a sport like soccer that late
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:49 pm to SOBmustpay
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Wasn’t Odell Beckham Jr. involved with one of the young national teams back in the day, but eventually decided not to pursue it? If I’m wrong someone correct me, but I seem to remember hearing something like that.
That's correct. But I say he made the right choice given his career earnings (albeit he apparently has poor money management
Drake Davis apparently was one too but he probably chose wrong.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 9:55 pm to Sterling Archer
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It's not about being a better athlete. I truly believe the US has the better athletes overall but you can't pick up a sport like soccer that late
Ocho being bad at fricking Real Madrid practice after randomly joining it is not unexpected. It doesn’t mean our athletes wouldn’t dominate if trained in the sport. Young? Sure. From birth? Nah.
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:03 pm to Sterling Archer
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Drake Davis
Dude was my preseason breakout offensive player one year. Boy was I dumb.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:07 pm to YNWA
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It's too technical for someone to just pick up in high school
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It's about skill and touch.
Always with this shite
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:09 pm to _Hurricane_
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Young? Sure. From birth? Nah.
I was responding to your comment about a 14 year old Bo Jackson. That's way too late to start.
Perfect example is Alex Freeman, son of Antonio Freeman (NFL WR). The son obviously received the genetics but he started playing soccer when he was four years old. You need a lot of these physically gifted guys playing from a very young age to play at the highest level.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:10 pm to Sterling Archer
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That's correct. But I say he made the right choice given his career earnings
The pay ceiling in soccer is higher than football, but it is hard to say how good he could have been in soccer.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:11 pm to YNWA
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Unless our greatest athletes have a ball attached to their feet from the time they learn to walk then there's no chance. The game is more than being a great athlete. It's about skill and touch.
This is like "Man I bet Alabama would beat the Cleveland Browns"
This.
Soccer players outside of the US play soccer in the streets with cans, in the hallways with tennis balls, in the yard with soccer balls, in the classroom with paper balls - everywhere they go. There's a reason it took Belgium 1 minute to score after we tied it. They do that because everybody else is playing with them, even if they aren't soccer players. Lebron James in his prime can't kick a ball with spin like they can. Lebron James in his prime can't dribble a ball like they can. And if he grew up loving soccer, the only place he'll get to practice soccer is on a field with other soccer players. Soccer is their sport. Almost everybody plays it, to some degree or other. Their golfers and tennis players play soccer. Their nerds play soccer. Our best athletes wouldn't be surrounded by soccer the way their players are.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:12 pm to deltadummy
quote:i don't get why you think this if soccer was our #1 sport
Our best athletes wouldn't be surrounded by soccer the way their players are.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:13 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:The world is losing its mind because he’s a goofy likable motherfricker and his degree of skill is almost never seen with that height. He is the exception
The entire world is losing its mind over a 6'5 Norwegian just physically dominating and scoring over everyone and im supposed to believe a physcially/athletically in his prime LeBron wouldnt do literally whatever he wanted if he was given soccer training from the time he could walk like all these other countries do?
His goal scoring co-leaders are 5’10” and 5’6”. The former less than 170 lbs, the latter 150
It’s never been athletics, no matter how many times this thread is stubbornly made
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:14 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:so combining the skill with height and athleticism matters? Interesting
and his degree of skill is almost never seen with that height.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:14 pm to deltadummy
Typical us soccer nerd.
Somehow the US can be the most athletic AND the most skilled in essentially every single other sport except for soccer and even if you take our most athletic people they still wouldn’t be skilled enough if they played it their entire lives
Somehow the rules of biology and population don’t apply to soccer and we are inherently inferior
What a joke
Somehow the US can be the most athletic AND the most skilled in essentially every single other sport except for soccer and even if you take our most athletic people they still wouldn’t be skilled enough if they played it their entire lives
Somehow the rules of biology and population don’t apply to soccer and we are inherently inferior
What a joke
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:18 pm to Obtuse1
quote:What
The pay ceiling in soccer is higher than football
There are 5 soccer players in the entire world with a higher salary than Brock Purdy
Pulisic’s wages are like $5m/year. He’d be outside of the top 1000 NFL players
This post was edited on 7/6/26 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:18 pm to WestCoastAg
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Like I dont get where people come from when they argue against this
Some folks think hypotheticals that will never happen are a waste of time.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:20 pm to _Hurricane_
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Yes I’m sure that fricking Bo Jackson could never be near the player that some random Norwegian is if he started playing soccer at 14. He just couldn’t figure out how to deal with Jurgen Bunblefrick who is 5’8 145 pounds.
I don’t know dick about soccer, but I’m pretty sure you don’t just pick up soccer at 14 and become elite. No matter who you are.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:20 pm to RohanGonzales
Which im thankful for cause football and basketball are exponentially better than soccer
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:21 pm to Obtuse1
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The pay ceiling in soccer is higher than football, but it is hard to say how good he could have been in soccer
Not in the US and that’s an issue.
How are you going to tell a kid like tyrann Mathieu hey you have a natural athleticism and sense of space you need to get in an academy so you have the chance to make more life changing money than the life changing NFL money but be in Europe potentially in Italy or Spain where you don’t speak the language and your family would potentially never see you play.
Who says yes to that
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:22 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:If you can find the two in the same person, yeah. But they’re usually mutually exclusive by nature of human physiology for the same reason that you don’t see basketball centers over 7 feet move gracefully
so combining the skill with height and athleticism matters? Interesting
The world isn’t lacking giants. Africa has tons of huge mother frickers. The lack of them in elite football should be your cue that the pairing doesn’t really work
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:23 pm to Patton
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The greatest soccer player of all time is 5’7 fwiw. Wish more smaller stud athletes in the US played soccer instead of riding the bench in sports where size makes a huge difference
I think the problem is a lot of elite 5’7 baws aren’t riding the bench in sports, they are dominating through and into high school in sports where lack of size eventually does eventually set your ceiling. That same kid in Europe though only ever plays soccer.
Posted on 7/6/26 at 10:23 pm to _Hurricane_
People always being up LeBron or Julio, and sure, there are probably some elite NFL/NBA guys who’d have been great soccer players…
But chances are, there are also even more G5 football players or mid-major basketball players, or even some minor-league baseball or hockey players who are great athletes who never gave soccer a chance, that, for whatever reason, genetics/disposition would’ve provided them the skill that would’ve turned them into world class soccer players. We’ll never even know their names, but if soccer was our #1 sport, they would’ve played it starting at 5 years old and been elite at it. I think that’s where a lot of the missing value is, not just the freakish NFL/NBA guys.
But chances are, there are also even more G5 football players or mid-major basketball players, or even some minor-league baseball or hockey players who are great athletes who never gave soccer a chance, that, for whatever reason, genetics/disposition would’ve provided them the skill that would’ve turned them into world class soccer players. We’ll never even know their names, but if soccer was our #1 sport, they would’ve played it starting at 5 years old and been elite at it. I think that’s where a lot of the missing value is, not just the freakish NFL/NBA guys.
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