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re: How has Oklahoma avoided the fate of Nebraska and Tennessee?
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:57 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:57 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Oil
Brisket
Castiglione
Joe Castiglione is the reason mainly. He got them out of Gibbs, Howard, Blake years with a great hire.
Howard derailed it after Gibbs somewhat got it settled. Blake just ran it into the ground and pissed on it.
Brisket
Castiglione
Joe Castiglione is the reason mainly. He got them out of Gibbs, Howard, Blake years with a great hire.
Howard derailed it after Gibbs somewhat got it settled. Blake just ran it into the ground and pissed on it.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 4:00 pm
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Posted on 9/25/19 at 3:59 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Good coaches, good hires, good AD and admins, proximity to talent, winning history and tradition
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:01 pm to 14&Counting
I think people forget how bad OU was in the 90’s. They were a nothing of their former selves.
When they hired Castiglione away from MU that was huge. David Boren knew a solid Athletics Dept was great for the school and state.
When they hired Castiglione away from MU that was huge. David Boren knew a solid Athletics Dept was great for the school and state.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:05 pm to WestCoastAg
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They made a good coaching hire and they didnt. Pretty simple
Exactly.
That and the Tom Osbourne model of offense wasn't going to last a a lifetime.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:11 pm to theOG
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OU has limited success recruiting out of Houston. That is UT/A&M territory without question.
Yep bringing up Houston in a discussion focused on DFW is pointless
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:29 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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roster is subsidized by the state of Texas at a >50% rate. That argument holds water for Nebraska, but Tennessee borders GA, NC, and AL- all talent rich states. There are parts of Florida, Virginia, and Ohio closer to Knoxville than there are parts of Texas closer to Norman.
1. Answer is texas.
2. Tennessee is hurt by its dimensions.
Memphis is not owned by UTk.
Louisville and cincinnati while closer to knoxville than memphis have no connections at all.
Southern ohio is still ohio.
Ask dooley. When he took the job he said he had to recruit cincinnati and atl.
Tennessee will never win an sec championship and will never be invited to playoffs even when its 8 teams.
Nebraska sold out for hoops.
They gave up texas football hoping to get into illinois basketball before Illinois wakes up. So far, not so much.
Okies still share border with tex.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:34 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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low african american population. Tennessee
Have you been to Memphis and maybe to a bit lesser extent Nashville?
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:35 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Simple...Bob Stoops.
He would have been great at Florida, Ohio State, anywhere he was linked.
Oklahoma was dog shite in the mid ‘90’s. You remember Gary Gibbs? The decline started with him taking over for Switzer. Schnellenberger took over for 1 year, went 5-5-1. John Blake came from the Dallas Cowboys, and his tenure was trash.
OU was .500 or worse for 5 straight seasons. Stoops was the 4th coach they hired in the decade following Switzer’s ousting.
He would have been great at Florida, Ohio State, anywhere he was linked.
Oklahoma was dog shite in the mid ‘90’s. You remember Gary Gibbs? The decline started with him taking over for Switzer. Schnellenberger took over for 1 year, went 5-5-1. John Blake came from the Dallas Cowboys, and his tenure was trash.
OU was .500 or worse for 5 straight seasons. Stoops was the 4th coach they hired in the decade following Switzer’s ousting.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:42 pm to memphis tiger
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low african american population. Tennessee
That made me laugh.
Nebraska never should have left the Big 12. Add Colorado too
Posted on 9/25/19 at 4:56 pm to dallastiger55
I thought the Big 8 was great
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:04 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
They kept a great coach for a long time in Stoops and look to have hired another one
Posted on 9/25/19 at 5:14 pm to sms151t
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I think people forget how bad OU was in the 90’s.
They had some 9-win seasons in the early-90s before things went off track for them from 1995-98. It's no different from what LSU went through really. Every elite program has gone through a terrible slump at some point. Oklahoma's lasted for four or five seasons.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 6:08 pm to teke184
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MS may have a large black population but it produces shite, talent-wise, compared to Louisiana and Alabama
Not true
Saturday Down South › look-th...
Web results
LOOK: These states produce the most NFL players - Saturday Down South
Link is busted. Mississippi produces talent though
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 9/25/19 at 6:10 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
It's not just coaching hire they run a modern offense that kids want to play in. That is some the other dying programs dont have.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 6:16 pm to teke184
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MS may have a large black population but it produces shite, talent-wise, compared to Louisiana and Alabama.
lol no. very few of the best players from mississippi go to ole miss or state, so people think mississippi football stinks.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 6:39 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Because Oklahoma recruits the heck out of North Texas and has for decades.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 6:42 pm to offshoretrash
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It's not just coaching hire they run a modern offense that kids want to play in. That is some the other dying programs dont have.
This is a very underrated aspect of it. Oklahoma has built a reputation all over the country of not only stability but innovation. Great offensive players want to play in it.
Oklahoma may not be situated in the most fertile recruiting grounds but it’s not far from them unlike Nebraska, etc.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 6:58 pm to Peter Venkman
Nebraska is a long way from Texas. You have to go through Oklahoma and Kansas to get to Nebraska. Tom Osborne's run at NU was built on steroids and reduced academic standards. It had very little to do with recruiting Texas. They were pretty good when they were in the Big 8 with no Texas schools. NU made the right choice to leave the Big 12. They get more money from the big ten than they got from the big 12.
It's not about recruiting TX.
It's not about recruiting TX.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:03 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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NU was built on steroids and reduced academic standards.
I have a hard time thinking Nebraska was the only school doing those two things.
It’s not like Switzer was a saint at Oklahoma. They had some real low class dudes there. Bosworth was a loose cannon, Charles Thompson was slinging dope, and Buster Rhymes fired uzis in his dorm when he got pissed.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 7:06 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Tom Osborne also did a good job of going into far away states and snatching up players he needed to run his offense. Tommie Frazier played high school football in Florida before getting a scholarship to play football for the Cornhuskers. He's arguably the greatest option QB of all-time.
It seriously is hard to believe that Nebraska hasn't been relevant in almost two full decades. When I was a kid growing up learning about the sport, it was always Florida State and Nebraska that you heard about. Those were the two best programs in all of college football in the mid-90s.
It seriously is hard to believe that Nebraska hasn't been relevant in almost two full decades. When I was a kid growing up learning about the sport, it was always Florida State and Nebraska that you heard about. Those were the two best programs in all of college football in the mid-90s.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 7:10 pm
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