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How Donaghy fixed NBA games
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:20 am
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:20 am
Long but fascinating article on ESPN.com this morning about how Donaghy fixed the games. LINK
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Donaghy calling two fouls 50 seconds apart against the 76ers' leading scorer, Andre Iguodala, in the third quarter against Boston, with the score's margin right on the spread. Iguodala heading to the bench; Boston covering the spread ... Donaghy in Seattle, the Sonics hosting the Mavericks, calling 11 straight fouls against Seattle as well as the last foul of the night, with 23 seconds to go. Dallas making both free throws, increasing its lead to eight. The closing line: Dallas by 8 ... Donaghy on New Year's Day in Charlotte calling 14 fouls against the Bobcats, five against the Timberwolves; the Wolves covering ...
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Donaghy in Dallas on Jan. 30 calling one foul against the home team and 12 against Seattle, including six straight against the Sonics when the margin was 13 or fewer. Favored by 12, Dallas covering ... Donaghy in Miami calling 12 fouls against visiting Charlotte, two against the Heat. The Heat covering ... Donaghy in Toronto calling four fouls against the visiting Nets' top scorer, Vince Carter, forcing him to the bench, the last one called by Donaghy when the ref was on the opposite side of the floor with the Raptors leading by three. Toronto, favored by 10.5, covering
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 10:49 am
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:22 am to Allthatfades
Referees never let human compulsions into their calling of games though, so I'm told.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:22 am to Allthatfades
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Long but fascinating article on ESPN.com
Thanks for linking it.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:25 am to Allthatfades
This is ESPN's feeble attempt to try and convince fans and viewers that Donaghy was an isolated incident, a true outlier. Couldn't be further from the truth.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:30 am to Vandyrone
Scott Foster is rumored to have been directly involved, and he still refs.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:31 am to Allthatfades
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Donaghy calling two fouls 50 seconds apart against the 76ers' leading scorer, Andre Iguodala, in the third quarter against Boston, with the score's margin right on the spread. Iguodala heading to the bench; Boston covering the spread ...
Fouls called in the third quarter... lots and lots of other possessions to make what he did irrelevant.
Players determine the outcome of games. Not refs.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:35 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:The NFCCG says hello
Players determine the outcome of games. Not refs.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:36 am to Vandyrone
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This is ESPN's feeble attempt to try and convince fans and viewers that Donaghy was an isolated incident, a true outlier. Couldn't be further from the truth.
I thought the contrary, seemed like they did a pretty good job in saying the NBA and former refs during the time did a systematic sweeping under the rug of the whole thing.
They WERE just talking about Donaghy’s incident, since it’s the only one we really have any facts about
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:36 am to Boomshockalocka
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Players determine the outcome of games. Not refs.
Boom so you think a ref purposely putting a teams best player in foul trouble doesn't impact the game? No wonder we can't have a rational discussion.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:43 am to Boomshockalocka
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Players determine the outcome of games. Not refs.
What a garbage take from you.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:47 am to TechDawg2007
I saw this teeet the other day. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Blaming the refs is a losing mentality. Point blank. Look at the LSU-UK basketball game. The LSU fans were chomping at the bit to say the refs cost them the game and it was a SEC conspiracy, up until the very last second of the game. Now it’s the UK fans saying the refs cost the game. The common denominator is the lack of acceptance of responsibility for failure and wanting to blame someone else. It’s embarrasing.
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When adults whine about the refs they unconsciously model that it is OK to blame others when things don’t go your way. It’s a passive aggressive way of deflecting responsibility and absolving accountability. It is a very poor precedent to set...
Blaming the refs is a losing mentality. Point blank. Look at the LSU-UK basketball game. The LSU fans were chomping at the bit to say the refs cost them the game and it was a SEC conspiracy, up until the very last second of the game. Now it’s the UK fans saying the refs cost the game. The common denominator is the lack of acceptance of responsibility for failure and wanting to blame someone else. It’s embarrasing.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:50 am to Boomshockalocka
Saying players determine the outcome of the game, as if refs cannot affect it in any truly tangible way (especially in a game as ref-affected as BASKETBALL), is patently absurd.
You are not a hoops guy. Leave that kind of talk to me, Pinata.
You are not a hoops guy. Leave that kind of talk to me, Pinata.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:50 am to redfishfan
An impact? Yes.
The deciding factor? No.
The deciding factor? No.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:52 am to Boomshockalocka
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The deciding factor? No.
False
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:53 am to Boomshockalocka
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An impact? Yes.
A big one, especially in basketball.
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The deciding factor? No.
Wrong. Key calls/no calls can and do decide basketball games. This is not up for debate among people who have a modicum of knowledge about the sport.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:56 am to TbirdSpur2010
There are 100 possessions in a nba game. Blaming the outcome on one or two possessions influenced by refs is as pitiful as it gets when it comes to blame shifting. You gonna focus on what someone else did to mess up and ignore the other 95 possessions when you coulda done better. And made the refs irrelevant.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 10:58 am to Boomshockalocka
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There are 100 possessions in a nba game. Blaming the outcome on one or two possessions influenced by refs is as pitiful as it gets when it comes to blame shifting.
No one is talking about blame shifting. I'm speaking objectively about calls or no calls at critical moments of games having a direct impact on the outcome. It is a fact that this occurs to varying degrees. You are a fool to argue otherwise.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:01 am to Boomshockalocka
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There are 100 possessions in a nba game. Blaming the outcome on one or two possessions influenced by refs is as pitiful as it gets when it comes to blame shifting
So if a teams best player has to sit a quarter bc of a call made on just “one or two possessions” how does that not effect the rest of the possessions?
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:01 am to Boomshockalocka
Donaghy literally served time for betting and fixing games.
Of all the dumb shite I've seen you argue, this takes the cake.
Of all the dumb shite I've seen you argue, this takes the cake.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:01 am to TbirdSpur2010
Varying degrees that never makes it as far as “the deciding factor”. Yes the refs can have an impact. But to say that the only reason an outcome happened is because of the refs is just embarrasing.
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