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re: How Donaghy fixed NBA games
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:37 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:37 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:The OP was about actual documented cheating/attempts to fix games.
the ref bad calls may have had a part in it. Like if the refs hypothetically were cheating in the saints game. but it was not the only reason. and not the reason I will go with for the loss.
That is what this thread is about.
If you want to hold the mindset that “cheating doesn’t matter because the team should have won anyway”, you go right ahead.
I don’t understand your “defense of cheating” position, but whatever.
Your posts have literally nothing to do with the OP, unless you hold the position that cheating is acceptable because it doesn’t decide the outcomes of games.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:41 pm to Allthatfades
I'm waiting for the how the NFL fixed games story.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:46 pm to Scruffy
I think it was pretty clear what my post said. IMO A foul in the third quarter of an nba game does not decide the outcome. there’s still 40 something possessions for each squad at that point in the game. That was one post.
If other people wanted to talk about other stuff. They could have. Heck they still can.
If other people wanted to talk about other stuff. They could have. Heck they still can.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:46 pm to Allthatfades
I’m just thankful he’s the only dishonest man to take advantage of such an obviously game-able system.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:48 pm to Allthatfades
I don’t think Donaghy was alone. But there were games in the past so suspect with Salvatore, Crawford and the ageless wonder - Dick Bavetta. Seemed like entertainment and not a sport.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:55 pm to Vandyrone
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This is ESPN's feeble attempt to try and convince fans and viewers that Donaghy was an isolated incident, a true outlier. Couldn't be further from the truth.
I love how you got 30+ upvotes for this post, when it's obvious that you didn't read the article. I doubt 30 people on this forum have.
ETA: I thought the article was really well written, and seemed to insinuate that it was possible that there were more refs involved, but that the NBA squashed the possibility of investigating that by leaking the story.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:01 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
I think it was pretty clear what my post said. IMO A foul in the third quarter of an nba game does not decide the outcome. there’s still 40 something possessions for each squad at that point in the game. That was one post.
Here’s what you aren’t getting. If the team would have made plays in the 4th, the ref would have simply made more calls to ensure he got the outcome he wanted.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:05 pm to Allthatfades
Here’s what you aren’t getting. If that were the case, the side the cheating ref wanted to win wouldn’t have lost so many times.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:07 pm to Allthatfades
I'm sure he didn't read the article, but it explains that Tim Donaghy would call early illegal defense to ensure that the team would play weaker defense in the paint. He would also target team's best players with foul calls to get them pulled from the game early due to foul trouble. He was 23-3-4 over a span of 30 games (77%), and said that he could swing a game by 6 points in either direction. Obviously if there was a blowout, he wouldn't do anything about it.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:08 pm to Boomshockalocka
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IMO A foul in the third quarter of an nba game does not decide the outcome. there’s still 40 something possessions for each squad at that point in the game.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:09 pm to Boomshockalocka
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If that were the case, the side the cheating ref wanted to win wouldn’t have lost so many times.
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He was 23-3-4 over a span of 30 games (77%
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:11 pm to TH03
What makes up the thirty games. What’s the criteria? And 77% proves me right. Not you. You are the one who said the ref could get whatever outcome he desired when it’s clear it wasn’t close to that.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:13 pm to Boomshockalocka
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What makes up the thirty games. What’s the criteria? And 77% proves me right. Not you. You are the one who said the ref could get whatever outcome he desired when it’s clear it wasn’t close to that.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:15 pm to Boomshockalocka
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And 77% proves me right. Not you
On what planet?
You can't just claim things that aren't right, although I know that's 90% of your posts.
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You are the one who said the ref could get whatever outcome he desired when it’s clear it wasn’t close to that.
He could 77% of the time. Pretty effective since you say refs can't control outcomes.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:15 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Players determine the outcome of games. Not refs.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:19 pm to TH03
Roughly half of the games he reffed would have been winners with no influence. of the other 50% of games 27% were winners, and 23% were losers.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:21 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Roughly half of the games he reffed would have been winners with no influence. of the other 50% of games 27% were winners, and 23% were losers.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:21 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Roughly half of the games he reffed would have been winners with no influence. of the other 50% of games 27% were winners, and 23% were losers.
Did you read the article, or are you just posting bullshite?
Posted on 2/19/19 at 2:23 pm to Epic Cajun
C What are the thirty games sample you are talking about.
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