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re: How did anyone at Ohio state think Dwayne fricking Haskins was ever better than Joe burrow?

Posted on 12/27/21 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 12:49 pm to
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Fields sucks


Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Was he?

One was playing under an Urban Meyer and Ryan Day offense

One was playing under Coach O and Ensminger of which he has 1 month to learn

Seems less likely Burrow improved 100,236% in 6 months to me


All of this is 100% true. But it would have been very difficult for Burrow to top Haskins' loan season as a starter if they had went with JB9. Ohio State didn't make some horrible mistake
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:04 pm to
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Burrow was a late bloomer. Guy wasn’t exactly great at LSU during his junior season
Exactly

Anyone who would have said Burrow is better than Haskins at the end of the 2018 would have been laughed off of this board, and rightfully so.

Haskins had 50 TD passes in 2018, Burrow had 16.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57865 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:05 pm to
evaluating teenaged quarterbacks is extremely difficult
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112430 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:05 pm to
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No Haskins was solid in college but how could you watch him side by side to burrow in practice and not see burrow was the better talent?

Explain 2018 then
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:06 pm to
He was more than solid bro
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75572 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:23 pm to
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Explain 2018 then


Our scheme sucked.

Hard.

We asked him to throw long passes and out routes with 3 receivers and no easy throws.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
90961 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:25 pm to
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Guy wasn’t exactly great at LSU during his junior season until the bowl game against Central Florida.

One hit changed his entire football career
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:27 pm to
A lot of bama fans think “29-0 = Burrow sucked in 2018”

That game was a systematic failure and not on him. We were running the Ensminger offense. The Florida game i thought was his only bad game that year.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104236 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:41 pm to
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But it would have been very difficult for Burrow to top Haskins' loan season as a starter if they had went with JB9. Ohio State didn't make some horrible mistake
I just think this is wrong

Current Aaron Rodgers who is the NFL MVP would have a tough time topping the pure numbers Haskin had in terms of yards and tds even if he got to play in the college game right now

But does that really mean he wouldn’t have been in improvement over Haskins? I think we all would say hell no to that
This post was edited on 12/27/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:46 pm to
The ideal qb for college is far from the ideal qb for college. I'd take Tebow over Peyton in college but obviously not in the NFL.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
6823 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 1:52 pm to
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you're a gamecock and your name isn't Dawn Staley then you don't know dick about what a champion looks like


No, but we are expertly qualified to discuss poor quarterback play.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63413 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:07 pm to
Ohio State wins a national title in either 2018 or 2019 with Burrow. It’s more than just the performance on the field on Saturday’s (and now Sunday’s). Burrow is a LEADER.

Send Haskins to LSU in 2018 instead of Burrow and I promise you Haskins doesn’t throw for 50/8.

LSU won in 2019 because of what Burrow demanded of his team mates in the offseason and those team mates had enough respect for him that they put in the work with him. I think all LSU players involved are glad they did.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59959 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:10 pm to
It’s amazing how crystal clear hindsight turns out to be
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
6169 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:25 pm to
2018 Joe Burrow is different from 2019 forward Joe Burrow for one reason:

Since Sept 1,2019 Joe Burrow has not thrown a pass after taking a snap from under center. Look at every pass play during his 2018 season. He is noticeably different when taking a snap and turning his back to the defense during a deep drop. He can’t make the same type of reads in the same time frame as he can from shotgun. He gave an interview in early 2019 where he made a statement to this effect. I say this because the Ohio State offense during his tenure there was run entirely out of shotgun.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34378 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Ohio State wins a national title in either 2018 or 2019 with Burrow. It’s more than just the performance on the field on Saturday’s (and now Sunday’s). Burrow is a LEADER.




Yeah, having Burrows leadership skills on the 2018 team would have definitely helped the defense not give up 49 points to fricking Purdue.

And Burrow would have totally prevented some of the drops, defensive miscues, terrible refs calls, and Olave incorrectly breaking off his route early from the 2019 Fiesta Bowl.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15521 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Fields sucks


I see you are taking a break from dumbing up the numerous TD Covid threads...glad you could grace us with your stupidity.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
20533 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:31 pm to
A lot of factors go into this discussion but 2 things that are often either not mentioned or known : JB graduated in 3 yrs at Ohio State & finished his Masters Degree at LSU in a year & a half i.e. he was of above average in IQ and, as well, he was Mr. Basketball in Ohio's biggest division his senior year i.e. he was a great athlete. All his coaches & many many teammates have commented on his above average competitiveness & toughness. Considering all this & it was just a matter of time.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15521 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:32 pm to
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Yeah, having Burrows leadership skills on the 2018 team would have definitely helped the defense not give up 49 points to fricking Purdue.


Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63413 posts
Posted on 12/27/21 at 2:37 pm to
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Yeah, having Burrows leadership skills on the 2018 team would have definitely helped the defense not give up 49 points to fricking Purdue.


Team leaders don’t let their team lose focus

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And Burrow would have totally prevented some of the drops, defensive miscues, terrible refs calls, and Olave incorrectly breaking off his route early from the 2019 Fiesta Bowl.


Burrow leading OSU in 2019 would have been up 3 scores on Clemson in the 4Q.
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