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re: GM Jocketty to overrule Baker: Aroldis Chapman to be in the rotation (Reds)
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:53 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:53 pm to Lester Earl
I think the main reason they got Broxton last year was to see if he had it in him to take over that closers role. He's not what he was a few years ago, obviously, and im not a huge fan, but hes at least been there before and performed well. Its not like they are replacing him with a shitcan.
The good news about stretching him out now is that you can always throw him back in the pen. If you dont stretch him out now, then hes stuck in the closers role with no other option.
The good news about stretching him out now is that you can always throw him back in the pen. If you dont stretch him out now, then hes stuck in the closers role with no other option.
This post was edited on 3/13/13 at 10:54 pm
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Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:55 pm to zzemme
Of course.
Kershaw as a starter >>>> Chapman or anyone else as a reliever
Chapman as a starter vs chapman as a reliever though?
Kershaw as a starter >>>> Chapman or anyone else as a reliever
Chapman as a starter vs chapman as a reliever though?
Posted on 3/13/13 at 10:59 pm to GynoSandberg
Its not like the dude was signed out of Cuba as a reliever. He was a starter. He was scouted as a starter. He was signed to be a starter. They are trying to see if it makes sense for him to be a starter. I dont see the harm in that at all.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:03 pm to reddman
Make him a starter, if it works and he is effective, leave him. If he isn't as effective as they want, put him back to closer. Why not take a chance on him being a dominant starter?
This post was edited on 3/13/13 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:09 pm to reddman
As a fan, I want him to start. I just don't think it's the right decision. Should've just started him from then. Being a starter in single A equivalent Cuba leagues doesn't convince me that he needs to be a starter
You can't reverse the experiment if he gets hurt
You can't reverse the experiment if he gets hurt
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:13 pm to GynoSandberg
I actually think he ends up being the closer this year, fwiw. Leake is having a great camp.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:18 pm to reddman
Plenty of pitchers start out being relievers then transition to starters roles. It was much easier to teach him how to "pitch" in one inning spurts
Posted on 3/13/13 at 11:23 pm to barry
I think it's the opposite. Starter to reliever brings way more success.
Cashner, Feliz and Bard didn't work out for one reason or another
Chris Sale is the only really good pitcher that comes to mind in recent memory.
Cashner, Feliz and Bard didn't work out for one reason or another
Chris Sale is the only really good pitcher that comes to mind in recent memory.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:21 am to GynoSandberg
Man, I just disagree. Maybe it would be different if the Reds didn't have any dominant starter, but they have 3 top-tier starers. No reason to move someone who was one of the best closers in the game to the rotation. Broxton + Chapman means the Reds likely wont blow many leads. Cueto, latos, Bailey, Arroyo, Leake is a solid rotation. Adding Chapman doesn't add enough for me to justify what you're losing as a closer
Posted on 3/14/13 at 6:59 am to LSU Red24
You're gaining an ace. That's a huge deal.
If he goes out and wins 20 games, the Reds probably have the best record in baseball next year.
I think that's a pretty good reason.
If he goes out and wins 20 games, the Reds probably have the best record in baseball next year.
I think that's a pretty good reason.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 7:36 am to KosmoCramer
I'd like to point out I'm ecstatic that a thread about the Reds can go 7 pages on what we should do with a player. Thank god we are relevent again.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 8:05 am to barry
Cueto and Chapman is a hell of a 1-2 for playoff time.
I'm hard.
I'm hard.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 8:14 am to KosmoCramer
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Cueto and Chapman is a hell of a 1-2 for playoff time.
Cueto Chapman and Latos
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 8:15 am
Posted on 3/14/13 at 8:17 am to BluegrassBelle
The Reds paid $30 million for this cat. It makes no sense to pay a reliever that kind of jack especially if he has no history of failure as a starter. And if he fails as a starter, the Reds could always convert him back into a reliever. This is the right move in many ways.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 8:21 am to barry
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Don't fix something that isn't broken.
We lost in Round 1 of the playoffs.
Wasn't the starters' fault, Games 1, 2, & 3 the Reds' starters only gave up one run.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 8:38 am to barry
You mean you dont miss the days Jimmy Haynes was the ace and Danny Graves the closer? I dont think Danny ever had a 123 inning.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 8:43 am to MrWiseGuy
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Chapman logging 200 innings is better than him throwing 70-80.
Yeah, like closers throw 70-80 innings anymore.
Yes, Champman throwing 60 innings is more valuable than Arroyo throwing 200 because, this just in, Chapman is a better pitcher. 300 PA's of Joey Votto would be more valuable than 650 PA's of Drew Stubbs because Votto is more than twice as good as Stubbs. He's that productive. By your argument, the Reds should make Votto a pinch hitter.
The issue is that 150 innings of Chapman is more valuable than 50 innings of Chapman. This is a statement so obvious I can't believe its a debate. Unless Chapman declines in quality be a factor of three, its better to have him in the rotation. now, some guys can't make the transition (SEE Papelbon, John; Feliz, Neftali), but it's always worth trying to make them a starter. If it doesn't work, you put them back in the pen as your awesome closer.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 8:43 am to madcap
Does Chapman have a third pitch he can command? I'm excited to see him try the rotation. That Reds team could give the Nats a run.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 9:28 am to SM6
Working on a changeup. He made Pujols look silly with it earlier in the spring.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 9:55 am to Baloo
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Yeah, like closers throw 70-80 innings anymore.
9 closers last year threw more than 70 innings, including Chapman. Another 6 threw more than 65 innings. That's half of the closers in baseball and doesn't factor in things like injuries and guys losing their role.
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