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For people who believe Brady made Belichick, who do you think is the GOAT NFL head coach?

Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:55 pm
Bill Walsh? Had Joe Montana for his entire head coaching career. Vince Lombardi? Had Bart Starr for his entire head coaching career except for his last year in Washington. Paul Brown? Never won a championship without Otto Graham. Don Shula? Couldn't win a championship with Marino. Bill Parcells? Doesn't have a single playoff win without Belichick on his coaching staff. Joe Gibbs? Has a very strong case but two of his Super Bowl victories came in strike years. Tom Landry? Has a 2-5 record in Super Bowls and NFL championship games.

It seems like a strong argument can be made against any coach for them not to be considered the GOAT.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:00 pm to
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Joe Gibbs? Has a very strong case but two of his Super Bowl victories came in strike years.

Aren't you a Bama fan?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65038 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:00 pm to
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For people who believe Brady made Belichick


So this is a question for rational people?

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who do you think is the GOAT NFL head coach


I don't think coaches are as important in the NFL as they are in college, so this argument is certainly a waste of time. GMs matter much more in the pros than head coaches and for years there was no better GM than Bill Belichick.

Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:02 pm to
Andy Reid
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65038 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:05 pm to
Had both Donovan McNabb and Patrick Mahomes.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14643 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:11 pm to
Mike McDaniel
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7675 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:19 pm to
Fairly short run, but Jimmy Johnson has to be considered.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17099 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:20 pm to
Probably Wayne Fontes
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30100 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:20 pm to
Those defense that carried the patriots the first decade of Brady's career says otherwise.

And I hate both.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Member since Oct 2011
36267 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:21 pm to
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For people who believe Brady made Belichick,
don’t give those people the time of day.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:22 pm to
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carried the patriots the first decade of Brady's career


OFFS
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30053 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:33 pm to
Parcells?
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5364 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:36 pm to
Landry
Posted by Xignals
Pits of Hell
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:42 pm to
John Madden
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202797 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:43 pm to
John Madden. Those Oakland teams during the 70’s were great. Or Chuck Noll.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47817 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:44 pm to
In that scenario it’s Joe Gibbs. Won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QBs, (Joe Theismann, Doug Williams and Mark Rypien)
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 6:48 pm
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
4521 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:52 pm to
Shula or Parcells
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21206 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:57 pm to
Did Jordan and Kobe make Phil Jackson, or vice versa?

Duncan and Leonard, or Pop?

But if we’re taking out coaches who won multiple Super Bowls without stability at QB, then Joe Gibbs enters the discussion.

And while bringing up strike years as a disqualifyer makes you sounds like some LSU fans who want to say 2020 and 2021 don’t count, if that is a disqualifyer, then I guess Parcells due to Simms’s injury.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:51 pm to
Jimmy Johnson
Posted by Jumpinjack
Member since Oct 2021
6485 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 7:52 pm to
Vincent Lombardi.
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