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re: Does Anyone Actually Like College Football More with NIL and Unlimited Portal?
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:09 am to Jcorye1
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:09 am to Jcorye1
I really don’t mind the transfer stuff. If that’s a “new normal”, then fine. Coaches can do it and so can other students.
The NIL stuff is something I legitimately don’t understand why teams are involved. If a student wants to whore themselves out for some money, go for it. Why should coaches be sports agents? And frankly, I think the NCAA has jurisdiction over something like that. Hand the recruit a list of local sports agents and wish them the best. It really shouldn’t involve the university or the athletics department.
The NIL stuff is something I legitimately don’t understand why teams are involved. If a student wants to whore themselves out for some money, go for it. Why should coaches be sports agents? And frankly, I think the NCAA has jurisdiction over something like that. Hand the recruit a list of local sports agents and wish them the best. It really shouldn’t involve the university or the athletics department.
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Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:26 am to AgCoug
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The spirit of the sport is gone, though.
This.
I will say though, I think the 12 team playoff is a great addition. It’ll probably get bumped to 16 eventually though
There has to be a sports bubble burst coming in the next 10-15 years though across the board. With the new generation having the attention span of a gnat, inevitable gambling scandals that will come out over time, the entitlement and arrogance of athletes for all to see because of social media and the inflated contracts..I just don’t see how it’s all sustainable. And the smaller - mid tier schools should enjoy NIL and the transfer portal for now because the major conferences are going to consolidate soon enough and they’re not going to be able to keep up with the joneses for a sustained amount of time. You’ll see more cases like Oregon State and the shuttering of football programs, etc.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 8:27 am
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:31 am to Jcorye1
I think it would be better if both were capped. Like a player can only make so much or a program can only spend so much.
And transfers should be OK with coaching changes and maybe a few other scenarios.
And transfers should be OK with coaching changes and maybe a few other scenarios.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 8:39 am to Jcorye1
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Does Anyone Actually Like College Football More with NIL and Unlimited Portal?
I'm just surprised that there aren't websites publishing every NIL deal for every player on every team and creating statistics based on the value of their cost. See which programs are getting the most out of their money. Kind of weird how all of the 'real' NIL numbers all seem to just be rumors.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:27 am to Kingpenm3
The playoffs is good for college football. These last few weeks are going to be wild with so many important games across every P4 conference and into the G5 as teams try to win their way in and jockey for playoff seeds. Go down the list of games this weekend and in the weekends to come and see how many of them really matter vs a year ago when there were only a handful of games left that mattered.
I have the CFB shows like Inside College Football on CBS Sports Network on in the background during the day (it's on right now). In years past the entire hour would be spent talking about Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, and a few other programs. Now at least 15 to 20 teams are in the conversation and coverage of CFB is broader based. It's much better.
Not a fan of NIL and the portal. They need to exist but there needs to be some guardrails put in place. I don't know what they would be or if they would withstand Supreme Court scrutiny but there needs to be something because the wild west is not sustainable.
I have the CFB shows like Inside College Football on CBS Sports Network on in the background during the day (it's on right now). In years past the entire hour would be spent talking about Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, and a few other programs. Now at least 15 to 20 teams are in the conversation and coverage of CFB is broader based. It's much better.
Not a fan of NIL and the portal. They need to exist but there needs to be some guardrails put in place. I don't know what they would be or if they would withstand Supreme Court scrutiny but there needs to be something because the wild west is not sustainable.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 10:54 am to chalmetteowl
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They would, however, still watch the 5 stars from major universities if they were all coached by high school staffs.
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This is IMG Academy… and no one cares about them except for junkies
You need an actual brand and people that care for people to care… like Alabama, Georgia, LSU, the SEC, etc.
Did you not see that that was exactly my point? The brand of the university is the most important thing to the multibillion dollar engine.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 10:58 am
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:24 am to Jcorye1
Portal should go back to how it used to be. Sit out a year unless you are a grad transfer. Will also help NIL some as it will require teams to have a larger commitment to a kid if they want him.
This post was edited on 11/13/24 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/13/24 at 3:59 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Why do folks keep saying “it’s not sustainable” or we need “guardrails”? We had guardrails for the past 100 years and teams cheated those guard rails and the NCAA did nothing about it. We had academic guardrails and monetary guardrails and yet schools accepted players who couldn’t read and everyone bought players.
As for the sustainability, there will always be players unless high school football one egos go extinct. I have yet to see a team only play with 8 players on the field because they lost 4 to the portal.
I do agree that many schools are being stupid and not getting their money’s worth from NIL, but that is because the system is new. Eventually, the nerds and analytics will get involved and become much better at forecasting NIL value and return on investment but right now we are still in the frenzy of throwing money around.
As for the sustainability, there will always be players unless high school football one egos go extinct. I have yet to see a team only play with 8 players on the field because they lost 4 to the portal.
I do agree that many schools are being stupid and not getting their money’s worth from NIL, but that is because the system is new. Eventually, the nerds and analytics will get involved and become much better at forecasting NIL value and return on investment but right now we are still in the frenzy of throwing money around.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:11 pm to RunningJacket
The portal is a good thing.
No one gives a flying frick if an engineering major transfers somewhere else because he thinks another school will be better for him, he’s homesick, he has an internship opportunity, or whatever.
Give the student-athletes the freedom to do what the frick is best for them. They are not expendable gladiators for your entertainment. Some of these guys are the right coach, scheme, or supporting cast away from generational wealth. People want to restrict their movement so they can continue the illusion of loyalty that they sure as shite wouldn’t show to a player if a better one came along.
No one gives a flying frick if an engineering major transfers somewhere else because he thinks another school will be better for him, he’s homesick, he has an internship opportunity, or whatever.
Give the student-athletes the freedom to do what the frick is best for them. They are not expendable gladiators for your entertainment. Some of these guys are the right coach, scheme, or supporting cast away from generational wealth. People want to restrict their movement so they can continue the illusion of loyalty that they sure as shite wouldn’t show to a player if a better one came along.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 5:55 pm to Kingpenm3
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I'm just surprised that there aren't websites publishing every NIL deal for every player on every team and creating statistics based on the value of their cost. See which programs are getting the most out of their money. Kind of weird how all of the 'real' NIL numbers all seem to just be rumors.
Because no one can know every NIL deal for every player, only what gets publicized
Posted on 11/14/24 at 6:37 am to alajones
I used to only watch college football as much as possible and wouldn’t watch NFL unless it was the Falcons. It has switched now. I watch UGA but not with as much fervor as in years past. I will watch NFL games a little more than before just because the level of play is so much higher. Not because I really like the teams but I still love the game itself and if I am going to watch paid pros without any true loyalty factor involved…. It’s going to be the highest level of accumulated talent.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:08 pm to Jcorye1
I think it’s a slower withdrawal due to fans being former students or locals who have always followed the team. Not paying attention to news and updates is a hard habit to break especially with long standing rivalries and so on.
The revenue sharing will speed things up for me. With transfer portal free agency taking away depth and development of replacements after graduation or going pro and having less money for facilities and training the quality of play will also drop. It’s already difficult to find complete teams on both sides of the ball. As injuries mount the weaknesses start to show even more the 2nd half of a season.
If LSU caves and gets into a bidding war with Michigan and wins it I could never think of this guy as anything but a hired gun and wouldn’t care about his success I might actually enjoy getting beat by lesser paid teams.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/lsu-football-recruiting/report-michigan-makes-big-push-for-5-star-lsu-qb-commit-bryce-underwood-with-nil-offer/116158219/
The revenue sharing will speed things up for me. With transfer portal free agency taking away depth and development of replacements after graduation or going pro and having less money for facilities and training the quality of play will also drop. It’s already difficult to find complete teams on both sides of the ball. As injuries mount the weaknesses start to show even more the 2nd half of a season.
If LSU caves and gets into a bidding war with Michigan and wins it I could never think of this guy as anything but a hired gun and wouldn’t care about his success I might actually enjoy getting beat by lesser paid teams.
https://www.tigerdroppings.com/lsu-football-recruiting/report-michigan-makes-big-push-for-5-star-lsu-qb-commit-bryce-underwood-with-nil-offer/116158219/
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:18 pm to chalmetteowl
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University leaders share a lot of the blame… think the LSU tailgate economy
Surprised LSU hasn’t changed its officially university name yet to include a corporate sponsor.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 11/16/24 at 9:23 am to Jcorye1
Minor league professional football hosted by college campuses.
Posted on 11/16/24 at 1:06 pm to Jcorye1
When do a couple of Ivy League teams decide they want to swim with the sharks?
Posted on 11/16/24 at 1:20 pm to Jcorye1
I love it when my team is winning and winning good. Otherwise I hate it.
Posted on 11/16/24 at 1:29 pm to Jcorye1
Definitely a lot less compelling and alot more watered down. It’s like the NFL with no name players.
Posted on 11/16/24 at 1:34 pm to Jcorye1
It’s amazing watching every continue to melt over this lol
Posted on 11/16/24 at 2:14 pm to tiggerthetooth
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The football programs are simply semi-pro at the least and are completely separate from the normal university life.
This. These are semi-professional football organizations. They have absolutely no real attachment to the schools to which they are associated. The players and coaches on these teams exist on campus in a total bubble. They live, work and eat in separate facilities that are intentionally separated from the college campus. The players would never attend class or pursue a degree, unless they are forced to do so.
Not only are these semi pro football programs, but, now, they have the feature of Open Free Agency. Any player can switch teams at will, thus even further divorcing and separating themselves from the schools for whom they NOMINALLY play for. Truth is - the players play for pay and for themselves - not at all for the school. The school is a mere vessel or shell which serves as an administrative home for the semi-pro player and the semi-pro team.
Anybody who sits down and roots for the laundry of any particular college team should really re-examine their lives in order to evaluate whether they are doing the wise thing here.
Posted on 11/16/24 at 4:57 pm to Champagne
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Truth is - the players play for pay and for themselves - not at all for the school. The school is a mere vessel or shell which serves as an administrative home for the semi-pro player and the semi-pro team.
College football will never be sane (and hasn't been for decades) because the fans will not allow it to be because they value winning above all else.
Give an Alabama fan a choice between a roster full of Alabama boys who are all going to be future doctors, lawyers, and engineers and would jump on a grenade for Bama football - but will go 9-3 - or a bunch of guys from all over the country who can't spell anything but NFL and have never heard of Bear Bryant but will deliver a national title and let's see who they choose.
The fans will pick the second group, and that's why college football is fricked up. The fans don't like NIL and the portal because it destroys the illusion that the players give a frick about the program. And the fans obviously don't give a frick about the players because if they did they would care more about them having more opportunities to better their lives in a multi-fricking-billion dollar industry that their bodies support instead of being shackled to a program and content with a scholarship.
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