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re: Do you consider Michigan State basketball blue blood?
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:19 pm to ClientNumber9
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:19 pm to ClientNumber9
National Titles
Louisville 3
Indiana 5
Final Fours
Louisville 10
Indiana 8
NCAA Tournament Appearances
Louisville 43
Indiana 40
Louisville has been a lot more relevant than IU the last couple decades. One more title and we pass them
Louisville 3
Indiana 5
Final Fours
Louisville 10
Indiana 8
NCAA Tournament Appearances
Louisville 43
Indiana 40
Louisville has been a lot more relevant than IU the last couple decades. One more title and we pass them
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:29 pm to ClientNumber9
1. UCLA
2. Kentucky
3. North Carolina
4. Duke
5. Indiana
6. Kansas
7. Villanova
8. Michigan State
9. Louisville
10. UCONN
11. Florida
12. Michigan
13. Ohio State
14. Cincinnati
15. Arkansas
16. Syracuse
17. Arizona
2. Kentucky
3. North Carolina
4. Duke
5. Indiana
6. Kansas
7. Villanova
8. Michigan State
9. Louisville
10. UCONN
11. Florida
12. Michigan
13. Ohio State
14. Cincinnati
15. Arkansas
16. Syracuse
17. Arizona
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:30 pm to ClientNumber9
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My obvious blue bloods are Kentucky, UNC, Duke and Kansas
But I have a hard time with Michigan State and the same goes for UCLA. Indiana, Louisville and Syracuse.
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Imagine listing your blue bloods and leaving the greatest program in cbb history off not to mention Indiana which synonymous with the sport.
So who'd you leave off your Mt Rushmore; Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, or Roosevelt?
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:42 pm to ClientNumber9
None of the Big Ten schools are Blue Bloods because they all take turns. Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Ohio State, and Wisconsin seem like they are always threats to reach the Final Four. Illinois, Purdue, and Minnesota have occasional nice runs. I've always viewed the Big Ten (including Indiana) as the really good conference. Not legendary, but not to be taken lightly.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:46 pm to HabaneroBuck
Plus, some of the legends of the Big Ten come from the regional days. Jerry Lucas of Middletown led Ohio State to a championship. The Fab Five were pretty much from Michigan and Chicago. Isiah from Chicago lead a bunch of Hoosiers and Midwesterners to a title. Nowadays, Detroit and Chicago just aren't the meccas they used to be. High school basketball is changing too much to maintain this regional personality. Good kids from the Midwest are often leaving the region for prep schools as Juniors and Seniors...creating more of a national AAU type of landscape.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 5:19 pm to BCLA
If you're referring to UCLA, I don't know. I think they had a great decade but outside of that they have one national championship in the last 46 years.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 5:36 pm to ClientNumber9
Indiana absolutely is not a blue blood.
Yes they have 5 titles, but blue bloods don't have a 63% win %
Yes they have 5 titles, but blue bloods don't have a 63% win %
Posted on 3/20/22 at 5:37 pm to ClientNumber9
But they have been to 4 Final Four's since 2006.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 5:37 pm to Ponchy Tiger
They also haven’t done anything in 20 years. And even then they were fading save for getting hot in the tourney that one yr.
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 3/20/22 at 5:43 pm to ClientNumber9
quote:been to a final four every decade since the 60s. Been to 4 final fours over the last 15 years. 8 sweet 16s in that same timespan
I think they had a great decade but outside of that they have one national championship in the last 46 years.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 6:00 pm to WestCoastAg
Blue bloods are North Carolina, Kansas, Duke, Indiana, Kentucky and UCLA.
Next tier is Connecticut, Louisville, Michigan State, Villanova and Syracuse. Maybe Georgetown (historically) and Gonzaga (recently).
Now that being said, UCLA and Indiana are strictly in on history. They could fall out of blue blood status IMO if they don’t make more noise soon.
Next tier is Connecticut, Louisville, Michigan State, Villanova and Syracuse. Maybe Georgetown (historically) and Gonzaga (recently).
Now that being said, UCLA and Indiana are strictly in on history. They could fall out of blue blood status IMO if they don’t make more noise soon.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 6:14 pm to ClientNumber9
Current Bluebloods are Kentucky, UNC, Duke, Kansas
Past bluebloods from history would include UCLA and Indiana.
2nd tier would be MSU and Louisville
Past bluebloods from history would include UCLA and Indiana.
2nd tier would be MSU and Louisville
Posted on 3/20/22 at 6:21 pm to Suntiger
Louisville has a lot more in common with Kansas and Indiana than Michigan State and Syracuse lol
This post was edited on 3/20/22 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 3/20/22 at 6:34 pm to cardswinagain
quote:
Current Bluebloods are Kentucky, UNC, Duke, Kansas
Past bluebloods from history would include UCLA and Indiana.
2nd tier would be MSU and Louisville
In agreement with this.
quote:
Louisville has a lot more in common with Kansas and Indiana than Michigan State and Syracuse lol
Sorry, your team isn’t a blue blood. Probably because they are in the same state as, and overshadowed by, Kentucky. Just the way it is.
Posted on 3/20/22 at 8:40 pm to WaterLink
quote:
But they're absolutely still blue bloods.
Being a blueblood is less about right now, and more about history.
UCLA was dominant in the way Alabama football has been excpt even moreso. From 1964 to 1975 UCLA won all but 2 National Championships.
Here are your multi title winners. I'd say there are 5 blue bloods.
UCLA — 11
Kentucky — 8
North Carolina — 6
Duke — 5
Indiana — 5
UConn — 4
Kansas — 3
Villanova — 3
Cincinnati — 2
Florida — 2
Louisville — 2
Michigan State — 2
NC State — 2
Oklahoma State — 2
San Francisco — 2
Posted on 3/20/22 at 9:55 pm to ClientNumber9
No.
CBB blue bloods are Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, and UCLA.
CBB blue bloods are Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, and UCLA.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:25 am to WaterLink
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UCLA basketball is like ND football.
I was going to make this exact comparison.
UCLA’s heyday was unreal and although they haven’t dominated in decades they haven’t fallen off the map either like a Nebraska (football) that’s going to lose its blue blood status (if it hasn’t already) for sucking for too long. Hell, I think Nebraska’s last 20 years would have been better if they had kept running Osborne’s offense with Solich and then some other former assistant or player when he retired. Ironically, that’s exactly what they have right now, just with a different offense.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 5:36 am to ClientNumber9
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But I have a hard time with Michigan State and the same goes for UCLA. Indiana, Louisville and Syracuse.
Syracuse has never been a blue blood program. While Duke, UNC, Kentucky, and Kansas get their pick of the best 4 and 5 star players, it's never been that way for Syracuse. Watch, when Boeheim retires, Syracuse falls off the map. It's always been Jim that made that program what it is.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:45 am to Saint Alfonzo
If Izzo had landed a second NC I would say Michigan State would be top tier, but as it currently stands they are just a step behind the UCLA/UK/UNC/Duke level IMO.
Watching Duke will be very interesting post K btw, not at all sold that they just continue on at their current level. Could be a tough transition with the constant “that’s not how K did it” stuff behind the scenes and the replacement has no proven track record at all.
Watching Duke will be very interesting post K btw, not at all sold that they just continue on at their current level. Could be a tough transition with the constant “that’s not how K did it” stuff behind the scenes and the replacement has no proven track record at all.
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