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re: Did NIL kill the March Cinderella in the NCAA Tournament?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:07 pm to RelicBatches86
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:07 pm to RelicBatches86
I tend to like it better how it has been the last two years.
Upsets are fun and all, but I’d much rather watch the big boys play in the Sweet 16 on through the final.
I like a handful of upsets in the 1st round from smaller schools and then prefer to see all those smaller schools lose in the 2nd round.
Upsets are fun and all, but I’d much rather watch the big boys play in the Sweet 16 on through the final.
I like a handful of upsets in the 1st round from smaller schools and then prefer to see all those smaller schools lose in the 2nd round.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:08 pm to Scoob
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It all depends on your concept of a cinderella... Texas, like you said, has a huge athletic program. But they were in the play-in round. So technically that fits. Or, the team they beat- Gonzaga. They have an undergrad enrollment of under 6k, so smaller than some Texas high schools.
Excellent point.
Looking at the 11 seeds that advanced to the Final Four.
1986: LSU
2006: George Mason
2011: VCU
2018: Loyola-Chicago
2021: UCLA
2024: NC State
You have an old blue blood, another with a couple of titles, a large state school, two schools in Virginia that are much bigger than people think, and a little Jesuit school.
They were all Cinderella come tourney time, but it’s hard to fathom that label being on UCLA.
Conversely, schools like Gonzaga, St Mary’s, Villanova, Creighton…nobody really thinks of them as Cinderella type schools anymore. They’re just solid programs.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:04 pm to Man4others
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TV and social media killed the Cinderella
Yeah this isn't true. It's NIL and the portal.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:13 pm to RelicBatches86
Transfer rules more than NIL
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:15 pm to RelicBatches86
I think It's more the portal than NIL though.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:18 pm to GeauxPanthers2
quote:Cinderella ain't deadquote:
TV and social media killed the Cinderella
Yeah this isn't true. It's NIL and the portal.
Again, Gonzaga was cinderella, until they kept winning every year. Their undergrad enrollment is below 6k. Why do you disqualify them? Because they win consistently?
If that's the case, you have Nebraska, who had NEVER won a tournament game until this season. They're now in the Sweet 16. Or Texas, who came thru the play-in round this year.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:06 pm to StansberryRules
well its the combo, the mid majors have just become the farm system for the bigger programs.
the effects are more dramatic in basketball because a mid losing just 1-2 guys can cripple them as far arse having a solid team vs. one that can make a legit run
the effects are more dramatic in basketball because a mid losing just 1-2 guys can cripple them as far arse having a solid team vs. one that can make a legit run
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:19 pm to Scoob
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that's the case, you have Nebraska, who had NEVER won a tournament game until this season. They're now in the Sweet 16. Or Texas, who came thru the play-in round this year.
They’re getting major conference money
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:25 pm to WaydownSouth
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Not NIL.
The transfer rules allowed this
People need to realize that American basketball has faded in terms of talent as European players have really come into the college game with better fundamentals and talent. International recruiting has significantly created a have and have not environment even more so than the transfer portal.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:33 pm to RelicBatches86
If you look at Iowas roster, they’re the closest thing. They brought in six guys from Drake, four of which were with Iowa’s Coach at Division 2 NW Missouri State in 2023-24 — and the dude who hit the game winner was out of Robert Morris. Granted he was the Horizon league POY last year.
Entire team of nobodies from nowhere, except Stirtz, he could have called anyone this offseason and got a few million.
Only cooper Koch was on the roster in February 2024, and he was redshirting. He was a 4* recruit, had offers from Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, wisconsin, but his old man played at Iowa.
Entire team of nobodies from nowhere, except Stirtz, he could have called anyone this offseason and got a few million.
Only cooper Koch was on the roster in February 2024, and he was redshirting. He was a 4* recruit, had offers from Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, wisconsin, but his old man played at Iowa.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:44 pm to RelicBatches86
Its a shame a lot of people missed out on the days of 80s CBB...
Teams rosters barely changed year to year...no one and dones.
Now the portal, now NIL...its so far removed from College athletes, so far removed from "your team"... who are these guys sporting my teams colors? The turnstile, the $ , the Dance is over.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:48 pm to chalmetteowl
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They’re getting major conference money
Yes, but which is it? Texas cannot be a Cinderella? Fine…same for Iowa and Nebraska, right?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:49 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Now the portal, now NIL...its so far removed from College athletes, so far removed from "your team"... who are these guys sporting my teams colors? The turnstile, the $ , the Dance is over.
It’s that way for football too.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:07 pm to RelicBatches86
Yes and that’s a good thing. We want the best teams playing each other and the one and done model killed that. Now Cinderellas are actually Cinderellas again and the big teams don’t play 3 rent a win games before they face another good team.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 8:39 pm to Madking
It is more NIL than just the transfer rules.
Look at it this way; we're now 3 full seasons and tournaments into the process of highly organized, efficient NIL machines being in major college basketball. During those 3 tournaments, we have seen 3 double digit seeds advance to the Sweet 16.
11 Seed Texas
10 Seed Arkansas
11 Seed NC State.
They're all high majors with significant funding and support structures. This isn't an accident, this is accounting.
Look at it this way; we're now 3 full seasons and tournaments into the process of highly organized, efficient NIL machines being in major college basketball. During those 3 tournaments, we have seen 3 double digit seeds advance to the Sweet 16.
11 Seed Texas
10 Seed Arkansas
11 Seed NC State.
They're all high majors with significant funding and support structures. This isn't an accident, this is accounting.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 3/23/26 at 8:49 pm to BoardReader
Yes, everything is funneling up and that’s a good thing. The height of college basketball was 1985-2002 where you mostly had stacked powerhouses and the occasional Cinderella. This is much more like that than what we’ve had the past 20+ years. It’s bigger fan bases, more national appeal.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:03 pm to RelicBatches86
If no mid majors advance to the sweet 16 next year it will be a trend. That has happened 4 times since expansion in 1985.. The last two was 2025 and this year. But you already have a 1 seed out so does NIL level the playing field up top?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:14 pm to RelicBatches86
Not a single mid major either the last 2 years. Houston and BYU are now Big 12.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 10:11 pm to STLhog
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I watched a 9 seed knock off a 1 seed yesterday. That felt pretty cindarella.
A 22 win Big 10 team isn't a Cinderella there hoss
Posted on 3/23/26 at 10:15 pm to S
Upsets are fun early on but it was awesome in 2008 when all the one seeds made the F4.
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