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re: Did NIL kill the March Cinderella in the NCAA Tournament?

Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
4102 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:07 pm to
I tend to like it better how it has been the last two years.

Upsets are fun and all, but I’d much rather watch the big boys play in the Sweet 16 on through the final.

I like a handful of upsets in the 1st round from smaller schools and then prefer to see all those smaller schools lose in the 2nd round.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30102 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:08 pm to
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It all depends on your concept of a cinderella... Texas, like you said, has a huge athletic program. But they were in the play-in round. So technically that fits. Or, the team they beat- Gonzaga. They have an undergrad enrollment of under 6k, so smaller than some Texas high schools.


Excellent point.

Looking at the 11 seeds that advanced to the Final Four.

1986: LSU
2006: George Mason
2011: VCU
2018: Loyola-Chicago
2021: UCLA
2024: NC State

You have an old blue blood, another with a couple of titles, a large state school, two schools in Virginia that are much bigger than people think, and a little Jesuit school.

They were all Cinderella come tourney time, but it’s hard to fathom that label being on UCLA.

Conversely, schools like Gonzaga, St Mary’s, Villanova, Creighton…nobody really thinks of them as Cinderella type schools anymore. They’re just solid programs.
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
2084 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:04 pm to
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TV and social media killed the Cinderella

Yeah this isn't true. It's NIL and the portal.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22300 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:13 pm to
Transfer rules more than NIL
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
5183 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:15 pm to
I think It's more the portal than NIL though.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23524 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

quote:

TV and social media killed the Cinderella


Yeah this isn't true. It's NIL and the portal.
Cinderella ain't dead , it's just click-bait.

Again, Gonzaga was cinderella, until they kept winning every year. Their undergrad enrollment is below 6k. Why do you disqualify them? Because they win consistently?

If that's the case, you have Nebraska, who had NEVER won a tournament game until this season. They're now in the Sweet 16. Or Texas, who came thru the play-in round this year.

Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162902 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:06 pm to
well its the combo, the mid majors have just become the farm system for the bigger programs.

the effects are more dramatic in basketball because a mid losing just 1-2 guys can cripple them as far arse having a solid team vs. one that can make a legit run
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54782 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:19 pm to
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that's the case, you have Nebraska, who had NEVER won a tournament game until this season. They're now in the Sweet 16. Or Texas, who came thru the play-in round this year.


They’re getting major conference money
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29730 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:25 pm to
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Not NIL.

The transfer rules allowed this


People need to realize that American basketball has faded in terms of talent as European players have really come into the college game with better fundamentals and talent. International recruiting has significantly created a have and have not environment even more so than the transfer portal.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12628 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:33 pm to
If you look at Iowas roster, they’re the closest thing. They brought in six guys from Drake, four of which were with Iowa’s Coach at Division 2 NW Missouri State in 2023-24 — and the dude who hit the game winner was out of Robert Morris. Granted he was the Horizon league POY last year.

Entire team of nobodies from nowhere, except Stirtz, he could have called anyone this offseason and got a few million.

Only cooper Koch was on the roster in February 2024, and he was redshirting. He was a 4* recruit, had offers from Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, wisconsin, but his old man played at Iowa.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 3:37 pm
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39415 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:44 pm to


Its a shame a lot of people missed out on the days of 80s CBB...

Teams rosters barely changed year to year...no one and dones.

Now the portal, now NIL...its so far removed from College athletes, so far removed from "your team"... who are these guys sporting my teams colors? The turnstile, the $ , the Dance is over.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30102 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:48 pm to
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They’re getting major conference money


Yes, but which is it? Texas cannot be a Cinderella? Fine…same for Iowa and Nebraska, right?
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30102 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:49 pm to
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Now the portal, now NIL...its so far removed from College athletes, so far removed from "your team"... who are these guys sporting my teams colors? The turnstile, the $ , the Dance is over.


It’s that way for football too.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70594 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:07 pm to
Yes and that’s a good thing. We want the best teams playing each other and the one and done model killed that. Now Cinderellas are actually Cinderellas again and the big teams don’t play 3 rent a win games before they face another good team.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
7392 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 8:39 pm to
It is more NIL than just the transfer rules.

Look at it this way; we're now 3 full seasons and tournaments into the process of highly organized, efficient NIL machines being in major college basketball. During those 3 tournaments, we have seen 3 double digit seeds advance to the Sweet 16.

11 Seed Texas
10 Seed Arkansas
11 Seed NC State.

They're all high majors with significant funding and support structures. This isn't an accident, this is accounting.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 8:40 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70594 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 8:49 pm to
Yes, everything is funneling up and that’s a good thing. The height of college basketball was 1985-2002 where you mostly had stacked powerhouses and the occasional Cinderella. This is much more like that than what we’ve had the past 20+ years. It’s bigger fan bases, more national appeal.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122147 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:03 pm to
If no mid majors advance to the sweet 16 next year it will be a trend. That has happened 4 times since expansion in 1985.. The last two was 2025 and this year. But you already have a 1 seed out so does NIL level the playing field up top?
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
13608 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 9:14 pm to
Not a single mid major either the last 2 years. Houston and BYU are now Big 12.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
10860 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 10:11 pm to
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I watched a 9 seed knock off a 1 seed yesterday. That felt pretty cindarella.

A 22 win Big 10 team isn't a Cinderella there hoss
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
7721 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 10:15 pm to
Upsets are fun early on but it was awesome in 2008 when all the one seeds made the F4.
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