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re: DAT Off-season Thread: YWCHA Edition

Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7310 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:24 pm to
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ETA: He did set career highs in HR and RBI last season.



So I guess the plus is that while he doesn't hit often, when he does, it's good.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7310 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:29 pm to
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And if Brantley's healthy, there's your left fielder.



Yeah, I think this is in the back of everyone's minds. But you probably should at least have a back up plan that is something besides Alvarez in LF.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102302 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:43 pm to
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And if Brantley's healthy, there's your left fielder.


Mind you I have some concerns about a 36 year old outfielder coming off his 3rd major shoulder surgery. Same surgery a much younger Jake Meyers had and you see the impact it had on him. Put Brantley in left and his arm probably warrants an automatic wave around 3rd.
Posted by Off McVoy
Member since Feb 2006
4855 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:46 pm to
Anyone think there's any chance we get Benitendi? How about Conforto?
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102302 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Anyone think there's any chance we get Benitendi? How about Conforto?


Either one of them make a lot of sense so apparently no based on current trends.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14024 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:56 pm to
a competent GM
----Like, someone who works for a team that just won the WS?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108287 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 1:25 pm to
Benntiendi makes all the sense in the world. He is exactly what this team needs and looking at the market now worth paying for. I don't get it. At this point Yainer might be the DH
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24913 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:35 pm to
Has anyone heard about WS shares and who all was voted one?

I’m sure Castro was voted a full share, but I’m curious about Odorizzi
Posted by Southof10Tiger
H-Town
Member since May 2013
138 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:04 pm to
I may be off-base, but I’m willing to see what happens with some call-ups before throwing money at the remaining free agents. I like Benintendi in LF, but if we don’t get him for a borderline reasonable contract I’m all for seeing what the farm system can give us up until the trade deadline.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
102302 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:55 pm to
Carlito got his mega deal. 13 years 350 million with the Giants
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24913 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:06 pm to
Happy for him

But that’s a bad deal. How many full seasons has he played, and how’s that back gonna age in that cold,windy park?

Not to mention how that spacious place affects his power numbers

Owners have much more revenue than anyone has estimated, and/or they’re being quite reckless
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71117 posts
Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:42 pm to
All I can do is shake my head at some of these contracts. Some are just blatantly bad deals


Good for Carlos
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3809 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 12:46 am to
Like has been said, happy for him but man that is a bad bad contract for SF, especially given his injury-prone-ness. I can't blame them for wanting a player like him but the blatant over spending on players that simply are not elite level is absurd.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
13022 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 1:19 am to
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But that’s a bad deal.


It is an insanely bad deal, if the giants are expecting him to actually hold value for 13 years.

Realistically, they’re probably just hoping for a good five, possibly 6 years of plus-value. Then maybe two more at serviceable value.

I’m happy he got his deal. I hope he shoves it down the Dodgers throats every time they play the giants.
Posted by markinkaty
Katy Tx
Member since Dec 2019
4507 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 6:27 am to
I hope we don't get involved in overpaying like SF did.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104006 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:10 am to
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Realistically, they’re probably just hoping for a good five, possibly 6 years of plus-value. Then maybe two more at serviceable value.


All these huge deals are like this. The back third is going to be sunk cost, the first third should be positive value... how is that middle third going to go?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108287 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:43 am to
I think he will hit for a higher avg in that park and slug well. Especially with the shift somewhat going away. He's not really a HR guy.

This is the way of the future. If you don't tear it down and build a stacked farm system (which will be impossible to do in the coming years) you must spend big to have a chance to truly win. The Astros have 2 years to win a other one based on how they currently do business.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40300 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Owners have much more revenue than anyone has estimated, and/or they’re being quite reckless



seems like they took a few years off from getting burned by Chris Davis-type of deals. Now they just need a reminder that long-term deals to players approaching 30 are a terrible idea.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104006 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:05 am to
3 years

Bregman and Tuve will be FAs in 2025 but I don't think Tuve goes anywhere.

The rest of the core (and Abreu) have 3 or more years of contract/control left.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24913 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:40 am to
The majority owners and Manfred will begin to step on the dicks of the ones that went off the reservation.

Call it collusion, call it unfair, but it's called human nature, which is a stronger force than Mother Nature
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