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re: Dallas and Redskins lose 10 million and 36 million respectively next 2 years
Posted on 3/12/12 at 3:14 pm to rutiger
Posted on 3/12/12 at 3:14 pm to rutiger
they need to punish the teams who took full advantage of the lack of a cap floor b/c they were cheap and fielded basically non competitive teams
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Posted on 3/12/12 at 3:50 pm to rutiger
WTF is Goodell doing, if he is pulling this on the Skins and Cowboys, he needs to bring Chicago to charge for the Peppers contract
Posted on 3/12/12 at 3:55 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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they need to punish the teams who took full advantage of the lack of a cap floor b/c they were cheap and fielded basically non competitive teams
PFT says this whole thing is a result of dumping bad contracts, not spending money. There was an advantage in doing so in the uncapped year on account of there not being a cap hit.
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Which is still a load of shite. How can Goodell say whether the team wouldn't have cut the player(s) if there still was a cap? I'd imagine the Saints not getting the $1.6m from the Skins/Boys is from cutting Grant. The lack of cap hit made it easier on us, but he was pretty terrible and I think they would have strongly considered it regardless.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 4:01 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Poor redskins, they just gave up all those pics for RGIII and now this happens. Ouch
Well all the picks was their own doing
Wouldnt feel sorry for them seeing as they wanted to do it. 
Posted on 3/12/12 at 4:05 pm to THRILLHO
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PFT says this whole thing is a result of dumping bad contracts, not spending money. There was an advantage in doing so in the uncapped year on account of there not being a cap hit.
Schefter reported that it was for front-loading contracts. It has to be since this partial (through September list) list of who the Redskins released in 2010 isn't very note-worthy in big salaries.
EDIT: PFT's language spoke of "dumping salaries into 2010." This means putting the majority of salary into the uncapped year to make it less in previous or subsequent years. So what was reported in the first place by Schefter.
This post was edited on 3/12/12 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 3/12/12 at 4:08 pm to Chad504boy
36 million? Dan Snyder is by far the dumbest owner in the league.
Dan Snyder is by far the dumbest owner in the league.Posted on 3/12/12 at 4:37 pm to Supernova
Does this taint the Cowboys' last Super Bowl win?
Posted on 3/12/12 at 4:57 pm to LSUCanFAN
Lawyers dont count towards the salary cap
Snyder and Jones are going to bring hellfire to challenge this.
Snyder and Jones are going to bring hellfire to challenge this.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 5:13 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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bengals who were way way way under if anything they used the system to be cheap fricks b/c they are so mismanaged and can't fill the seats
unlike the Cowboys & Redskins, the Bengals made the playoffs
Posted on 3/12/12 at 5:28 pm to The Great Gatsby
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Lawyers dont count towards the salary cap Snyder and Jones are going to bring hellfire to challenge this.
Extremely doubtful.
The league sets the rules for it's members. It told the owners not to exploit the uncapped year for competitive advantage-- and what did they do? They exploited the crap outta it. It doesn't matter if they called a press conference to do it, or if they did it behind closed doors during an ownership meeting about the status of the CBA.
Posted on 3/12/12 at 11:38 pm to TigerintheNO
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Bengals made the playoffs
not in 2010
Posted on 3/13/12 at 8:11 am to BoardReader
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The league sets the rules for it's members.
which is the CBA, which didn't have a cap that year
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It told the owners not to exploit the uncapped year for competitive advantage
that is collusion
Posted on 3/13/12 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Found this on a redskins message board. Doesn't look like the Cowboys and Redskins were the only (or biggest) violators of the salary cap in the year without a salary cap.
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LINK
Posted on 3/13/12 at 8:58 am to bbrownso
Tyson Jackson made over $25 million two seasons('09-'10). 
He is scheduled to make $8.25 million this season and $14.9 mill the following.
He is scheduled to make $8.25 million this season and $14.9 mill the following.
Posted on 3/13/12 at 9:10 am to TigerintheNO
Even with those numbers, I think Jackson's numbers were so high was that they didn't have a lot of high priced players in 2009. And I guess they just figured that it wouldn't hurt to have it be higher in the possible uncapped year.
Still Julius Peppers is the best example with the 20 mil in base salary and 13 mil in misc bonuses for about 34 mil in cap hit. Funny how it dropped about 21 million in 2011. And actually, it dropped even more than that since the Bears restructured that 10.5 mil roster bonus into a signing bonus and thus it was prorated over the remaining years.
Still Julius Peppers is the best example with the 20 mil in base salary and 13 mil in misc bonuses for about 34 mil in cap hit. Funny how it dropped about 21 million in 2011. And actually, it dropped even more than that since the Bears restructured that 10.5 mil roster bonus into a signing bonus and thus it was prorated over the remaining years.
Posted on 3/13/12 at 9:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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Collusion
Absolutely it is. The NFL has become more and more unwatchable over the past several years and now it is becoming insufferable. I watched fewer games last year than ever before. I wouldn't even call myself an NFL fan anymore. Goodell is a joke
Posted on 3/13/12 at 9:36 am to BoardReader
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BoardReader
The league approves all contracts. This is absolutely collusion by owners. As a diehard Saints fan this is fvcking wrong what happened to the Cowboys and the Redskins (and I hate both those teams). I could care less about us not gettin a piece of the split pie.
Goodell thinks he's the fvcking tzar of communist Russia. I hope Jerry and Snyder bring an army of lawyers that'd make Johnnie Cochran shake and give that fvcktard Goodell hell.
Posted on 3/13/12 at 11:21 am to bbrownso
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Doesn't look like the Cowboys and Redskins were the only (or biggest) violators of the salary cap in the year without a salary cap.
wow this is some straight up bullshite godell has fricking lost it
Posted on 3/13/12 at 11:41 am to Chad504boy
It almost sounds like the NFL wanted all teams to participate in collusion during the uncapped year to keep salaries down.
Dallas and Washington may be able to sue the league over this.
I hope they can and do.
Dallas and Washington may be able to sue the league over this.
I hope they can and do.
Posted on 3/13/12 at 12:02 pm to memphis tiger
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It almost sounds like the NFL wanted all teams to participate in collusion during the uncapped year to keep salaries down.
uh, that's exactly what goodell wanted
and goodell sold the punishment to the union by (1) giving them the cap space this year they were freaking the frick out about and (2) framing the problems/issues with cutting players
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