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re: Can someone explain the Kobe helicopter crash to me like I'm 5?

Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:15 pm to

Hilly terrain and poor visibility, right?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:19 pm to
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How does a helicopter hit the ground by accident? It's flying in the air...
damn geology, you scary
Posted by Mr Personality
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:24 pm to
Jesus you are dumb
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:33 pm to
Outside of flying by instruments or not flying at all I have wondered what should have been cruising speed when it started to follow the 101 with the fog still causing visibility issues, clouds overhead, staying low to point that control (SoCal?) couldn't always follow due to higher terrain around it, and following a road that was curving through this higher terrain.

It seemed fast in general much less the other conditions going on. I am not a pilot, but maximum speed and fog on what basically became like a curvy road for it with the terrain doesn't make sense to me.

Has anyone reported on when game started? I still would think Kobe could just get them to delay start, but up to time of crash the flight had to have taken longer than planned with delay around zoo and also possibly the flying up and around Burbank & Van Nuys airports (not sure of original plan or times).

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:34 pm to
Gravity is undefeated.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 2:44 pm to
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I'm aware this is probably a retarded question, but since I don't know anything about flying, I don't understand.


Some articles and YouTube and you'll know.

Search aviation acronyms and buy some aviators and boom, you got it!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79430 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:04 pm to
I thought People said it fell out of the sky.

If you’re falling you’re gonna kit the ground whatever the elevation.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:08 pm to
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How does a helicopter hit the ground by accident?
Well, no one knows yet with this particular accident. 2 popular theories are 1) heavy fog caused the pilot to experience disorientation and he flew the helicopter into the ground thinking he was leveling off or climbing;
2) the helicopter suffered a mechanical issue that cause it to crash.
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 3:09 pm
Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:19 pm to
The helicopter he was in had an accident and he’s in heaven now.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:33 pm to
He was turning because he was in the soup and had powered into the turn to avoid losing lift

He lost lift anyway and basically turned into the side of the hill
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
55986 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:36 pm to
Fog limited visibility and apparently was bad enough to ground other small craft flights
It looks like it was ok from where they left but they ended up hitting that bad patch in that hilly area.
Pilot probably had no idea and couldn't see anything.
When you lose your orientation as a pilot, it's like flying blind.


A lot of times in those conditions, he was flying next to that major highway to help him know where he is at all times.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:38 pm to
Seriously? Are you legit mentally handicapped or something or just trolling?
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:50 pm to
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A lot of times in those conditions, he was flying next to that major highway to help him know where he is at all times.



This is the head scratcher on a lot of aviation forums. They were traveling along Hwy 101 at around 500 ft and could see the road. The clouds were 1300ft. they ascend into the clouds, basically do a u-turn, and then crash at 1100 ft going 170mph.

It seems if they kept following Hwy 101 at 500 ft, then they could’ve made it to the academy. Possibly pilot was wanting to get higher to be tracked and let ATC direct them. Who knows. The academy was west of Thousand Oaks right off 101.

YouTube Kobe simulated flight path


Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 3:59 pm to
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Helicopter takes off from ground.

Helicopter fly forward.

Ground elevation increases to height greater than Helicopter.

Helicopter doesn't see the ground elevation increase because of fog.

Helicopter fly into ground and go BOOM.


only poster who got 5 yr old requirement.

A-.

Missed one piece.

people who live there say they could hear a funny sound coming from the helicopter. Maybe something was broken. Maybe the engine. Maybe the part that spins the big blade on the roof.
We dont know. People are looking at all the parts to learn more.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
55986 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 4:03 pm to
the last radio contact told the pilot he was too low for them to help him, so that's probably why he got higher
he probably ascended and it was probably worse doing that and that's when he started flying blind
had he stayed low he probably could have been guided by the road to his destination
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 4:06 pm to
[quote]Can someone explain the Kobe helicopter crash to me like I'm 5?[/quote

Helicopter without Terrain Avoidance System takes off in heavy fog.

Visually impaired pilot flies into terrain.

For those in the know...is an S-76 single pilot rated? I always thought that it was a 2 pilot operation.
This post was edited on 1/30/20 at 4:08 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28019 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 4:33 pm to
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Seriously? Are you legit mentally handicapped or something or just trolling?
I'm ignorant of the facts.

I could have kept it to myself, but I like to learn when I'm ignorant about something and was curious about exactly what happened.


But having said that, let's take a look at the brilliant posts you've made today in response to various people:

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Your dating life sounds miserable.


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I did the whole awkward jerk off in a doctor's office and leave your jizz container in the lockbox on the wall thing last year.


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Fran is wife material, the rest are skanks. Give me Fran any day. Low-key huge tits too.




You sound like a real Rhodes Scholar.

Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 1/30/20 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

elevation is known to change in mountainous regions


You threw the word "elevation" out like OP will know what that means.
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