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re: BREAKING: The NCAA will allow athletes to be compensated for their names, images and liken
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Shove it up your arse. That argument gets whipped out every single time the subject comes up.
Stop being an idiot.
Don't want to get called out for cheap tricks? Don't fricking play them.
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:42 pm to Tigerlaff
So are they going to allow kids to sign up with an agent?
Or are we going to tell an 18 year old dumbass kid, with his dumbass mama, to go negotiate their own contracts? That's not going to end well.
Or are we going to tell an 18 year old dumbass kid, with his dumbass mama, to go negotiate their own contracts? That's not going to end well.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:42 pm to blueboy
quote:You literally made something up and are now arguing vociferously about that thing you made up.
Shove it up your arse. That argument gets whipped out every single time the subject comes up.
Don't want to get called out for cheap tricks? Don't fricking play them.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:42 pm to blueboy
Oh for fricks sake, stop melting. Just because some retards pull out retarded arguments doesn't mean you need to stoop to your own version of being retarded.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:53 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I can't wait to see bidding wars between guys like Phil Knight and Stephen Ross
Two things required now...passonate booster with money. Harvard could own cfb ...30 something alums are billionaires? But are they passonate about it? (Maybe ....if Yale beats them enough)
But i think the ultimate outcome is:
. Oregon UTX /ATM Michigan...UCLA USC UW own football. Large city teams with wealthy alums. If i can get a guarantee of 10k of my jerseys sold at ...Alabama ..great. But Stanford has a an alum that will buy 50k of my jerseys..even better. That doesnt take into ..a ucla usc scenario of getting paid to use an image in a movie or video (and there may be all sorts of guidlines around outright paying...but that's naive. Its now sliding down that slippery slope)
My question is....why do we have schilarship limits imposed on schools and then do this? Parity just took a double tap execution style
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:57 pm to Vestigial Morgan
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My question is....why do we have schilarship limits imposed on schools and then do this? Parity just took a double tap execution style
This is the biggest problem. This essentially removes the barrier that scholarship limits placed on teams. Bama needs a kicker but all the scholarships are used up? John Q. Booster happens to know someone willing to buy 10,000 jerseys of the best kicker around. Clemson needs to reload their O-line? There's a booster with a dealership who would love a few big guys in his next commercial.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:00 pm to Ingeniero
Correct. College sports are dead.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:
So are they going to allow kids to sign up with an agent?
Or are we going to tell an 18 year old dumbass kid, with his dumbass mama, to go negotiate their own contracts? That's not going to end well.
That's a concern I have as well. A player should be able to have representation if he's signing a contract with a business for an endorsement or royalties. However, that opens the doors for those grifters, that element that the NCAA has worked really hard to keep out, to come back into the fray. Those "agents" who will see it as an opportunity to get their foot in the door with a star athlete who has pro-potential.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:13 pm to FairhopeTider
The haves just got considerably stronger...the have nots just got even worse. This going to end badly.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:14 pm to WildManGoose
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Teams like Texas and USC will benefit at the expense of those like Auburn, VT, Clemson, etc.
I've asked in these threads before but no one seems to be able to answer - where is all of this new money going to originate?
Nike already spends a ton on college athletics. They're not going to start spending MORE because of this, they'll just take money from other buckets. If player income goes up from boosters, program income is going to go down.
I genuinely believe this is a wash. Phil Knight isn't going to start spending more money than he already does at Oregon.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:16 pm to Buckeye Backer
quote:
The haves just got considerably stronger...the have nots just got even worse.
So college football powers will stay as they are
South Carolina’s chances of winning a title have went from 0.5% to 0.1%
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:18 pm to Vestigial Morgan
quote:
Two things required now...passonate booster with money. Harvard could own cfb ...30 something alums are billionaires? But are they passonate about it? (Maybe ....if Yale beats them enough)
Well first.
Harvard is in the Ivy League which is FCS.
The Ivy League doesn’t compete in the FCS playoff
Also, Ivy League schools don’t offer athletic scholarships
Harvard’s rich alums also spend their money on other things
Not sports
quote:
Large city teams with wealthy alums. If i can get a guarantee of 10k of my jerseys sold at ...Alabama ..great. But Stanford has a an alum that will buy 50k of my jerseys..even better
No
Alabama’s jerseys are still sold nation wide
Sure Stanford can get the “alums” to pay for them but an Alabama jersey will have more than just some wealth alums buying a 5 stars jersey
Alabama’s name already adds much more value from national exposure and fan gear than Stanford’s does
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:22 pm to slackster
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I've asked in these threads before but no one seems to be able to answer - where is all of this new money going to originate?
Nike already spends a ton on college athletics. They're not going to start spending MORE because of this, they'll just take money from other buckets. If player income goes up from boosters, program income is going to go down.
I genuinely believe this is a wash. Phil Knight isn't going to start spending more money than he already does at Oregon.
I'm not so sure about this. Wouldn't it be financially lucrative for Nike's baby (Oregon) to win 4 or 5 national championships in a row? Think of all the officially licensed gear they'd sell after that. Why wouldn't they drop a few hundred grand to get the best of the best recruits in an attempt to set up a mini dynasty that would sell merchandise for an order of magnitude more than they paid their players?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:25 pm to Ingeniero
yup. this is why @slackster and @shell311 need to be ignored. surface level thinkers who never see the big picture
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:25 pm to Ingeniero
quote:
I'm not so sure about this. Wouldn't it be financially lucrative for Nike's baby (Oregon) to win 4 or 5 national championships in a row? Think of all the officially licensed gear they'd sell after that. Why wouldn't they drop a few hundred grand to get the best of the best recruits in an attempt to set up a mini dynasty that would sell merchandise for an order of magnitude more than they paid their players?
Wouldn’t it be more lucrative for a team with a larger fanbase to win though?
Especially larger schools with large fanbases and large alumni bases?
Like Ohio State Penn State Texas and Michigan?
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:26 pm to slackster
quote:
I've asked in these threads before but no one seems to be able to answer - where is all of this new money going to originate?
Nike already spends a ton on college athletics. They're not going to start spending MORE because of this, they'll just take money from other buckets. If player income goes up from boosters, program income is going to go down.
The money isn't going to come from the gear companies. Even the dummies in CA realized the potential issues and put in their law that a school won't be held liable for telling a kid he can't wear gear that conflicts with the university sponsorship.
What you are going to see is the next Joe Burrow throwing a football to Morris Bart, in a tv commercial.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:26 pm to Ingeniero
Yeah, I think there is some argument that the "middle class" type football teams could make a push for the top if you get Walmart folks slinging cash at players for Arkansas, Dan Gilbert for Michigan State, T Boone Pickens for Okie Lite (I know he croaked), etc., etc.
I think we have to break this into football/basketball. I feel like basketball is going to get even sleazier. But, maybe this will make the sleaziness transparent.
As for football, after stud QBs and RBs, is anyone going to be that valuable coming into school other than someone with publicity like a Jadeveon Clowney level kid?
I think we have to break this into football/basketball. I feel like basketball is going to get even sleazier. But, maybe this will make the sleaziness transparent.
As for football, after stud QBs and RBs, is anyone going to be that valuable coming into school other than someone with publicity like a Jadeveon Clowney level kid?
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:27 pm to Ingeniero
quote:Because they have no guarantee that it would even go that way. Tenn. has had pretty good recruiting classes for years now, and yet are still complete dogshit.
Wouldn't it be financially lucrative for Nike's baby (Oregon) to win 4 or 5 national championships in a row?
It's basically a janky form of gambling at that point on unproven details. With the NFL, when they draft someone, they've generally had years of seeing them in CFB first. A little bit of highschool tape is far less reliable.
Basically, Oregon would have to convince Nike to drop a shite ton of cash on unproven high school kids.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:28 pm to Kodar
Let Jimmy Haslam open the checkbook and see what happens.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:29 pm to I Bleed Garnet
quote:This has been the crux of the matter for me. People keep saying "Parity is dead! Amateurism is gone! College sports are ruined!" Yes, because that wasn't already the case.
So college football powers will stay as they are
South Carolina’s chances of winning a title have went from 0.5% to 0.1%
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