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re: BREAKING: The NCAA will allow athletes to be compensated for their names, images and liken

Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:47 pm to
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What you are going to see is the next Joe Burrow throwing a football to Morris Bart, in a tv commercial.






Is he an LSU booster already? If so, his donations will go down proportionally to what he pays Burrow (I'd imagine). If not, why would he care all of a sudden?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:48 pm to
Kodar,

You got downvoted, but you are absolutely correct.

CFB really caters to less than half of that, IMO. You have 120+ schools that can "qualify" for the CFP.

Reality is the same 5-6 Tier 1 Bluebloods will always be in the mix, no matter what they do, then there is everyone else.

The reality of a four team playoff only made my statement above more correct, as the rules for qualifying change depending on the Tier of the team and their "need" at the time (for example, not winning their conference but still getting in).

These bigger programs are already paying the players. This won't change much.

What will happen is now women will complain of the pay gap in college sports, and it will be hilarious.

What will also add confusion is now you have men competing as women in college sports too, so that will be a fun cherry on top of the nonsense.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23036 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:49 pm to
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All I’m trying to say is this doesn’t make schools in “big markets” all the sudden national powers like people seem to say.

Teams like Alabama, Texas, Ohio State etc will just get richer


Richer doesn't matter if they can't (legally, but bear with me here) drop a bag of money on the table for Recruits A, B and C. Sure, boosters can pump money into a program for better facilities, nutrition, tech, etc. But those are all things that remain with the university after the players leave. Telling a high school kid "we'll give you $50k and a new Challenger to come play here" is totally different
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23036 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:53 pm to
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Is he an LSU booster already? If so, his donations will go down proportionally to what he pays Burrow (I'd imagine). If not, why would he care all of a sudden?

Says who? A lawyer may not be the best example, but if some business were to pay for a player's likeness, in essence just to have them go to their preferred school, and that player is a superstar, you just drummed up interest in the program. Now you're the guy who got so-and-so to go to the school, you've got commericals with him, a picture of you shaking hands on the wall, and most importantly, more eyes on the TV watching your boy play and throw you a football during the commercial break.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:53 pm to
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. Telling a high school kid "we'll give you $50k and a new Challenger to come play here" is totally different

Not really sure I get what you’re saying here
This doesn’t seem at all what they’d be doing under this new rule

Or are you just saying this will happen with these new rules?

if this is how it’s going to be what means the same schools that are at the top now Won’t keep doing it with the new rules?
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:55 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:54 pm to
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Says who? A lawyer may not be the best example, but if some business were to pay for a player's likeness, in essence just to have them go to their preferred school, and that player is a superstar, you just drummed up interest in the program. Now you're the guy who got so-and-so to go to the school, you've got commericals with him, a picture of you shaking hands on the wall, and most importantly, more eyes on the TV watching your boy play and throw you a football during the commercial break.



Exactly. I don't see why people don't see this.

eta-Example-UW O lineman get put in ads for the local Caddy dealer and get the leases picked for new Escalades.

Just one obvious example.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:58 pm to
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CFB really caters to less than half of that, IMO. You have 120+ schools that can "qualify" for the CFP.

Reality is the same 5-6 Tier 1 Bluebloods will always be in the mix, no matter what they do, then there is everyone else.

Accurate summary. The G5 is irrelevant on the national scale. UCF has provided all the evidence of that lately we need. I'm not here to argue whether or not UCF should've been considered, just that the G5 is viewed as irrelevant. That alone knocks out roughly half.
Then you have the P5, of which roughly another half are irrelevant because they don't have the resources (i.e. money to pay players) currently. You're left with a pretty small number of teams that have 'realistic', whatever that number may be, chances of actually winning trailing behind the bluebloods with loads of cash in tow.

TL;DR parity has not, does not, and is not going to suddenly exist in CFB. CFB would have to go through tremendous, massive overhauls before parity can even enter the conversation.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:00 pm to
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Exactly. I don't see why people don't see this.

eta-Example-UW O lineman get put in ads for the local Caddy dealer and get the leases picked for new Escalades.

Just one obvious example.

Yea you’ll see this in markets that genuinely give a shite about college sports

Your local NYC auto dealer isn’t going to get Rutgers kids to do it, because no one cares
They get Aaron Judge or Saquon Barkley to do those ads
Or in Chicago they get Patrick Kane Or Khalil Mack.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:00 pm to
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Says who? A lawyer may not be the best example, but if some business were to pay for a player's likeness, in essence just to have them go to their preferred school, and that player is a superstar, you just drummed up interest in the program. Now you're the guy who got so-and-so to go to the school, you've got commericals with him, a picture of you shaking hands on the wall, and most importantly, more eyes on the TV watching your boy play and throw you a football during the commercial break.


I'm trying to view this logically.

If I care enough about LSU to pay a player to go there, I'm already donating to TAF, no?

Am I going to keep my donations up while adding a player to my payroll? I tend to think they'll be reduced dollar for dollar. If I'm donating $1000/yr, I'm not going to add another $500/yr for a player, I'm just going to reduce my donations accordingly.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:01 pm to
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eta-Example-UW O lineman get put in ads for the local Caddy dealer and get the leases picked for new Escalades.


And that will be the death of CFB?

Come on man.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:11 pm to
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I'm trying to view this logically.



lmao. you're whole argument is emotionally based dude
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:14 pm to
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lmao. you're whole argument is emotionally based dude

quote:

Mr Perfect

fr fr 100 gucci




The irony is thick enough to cut with a knife.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:24 pm to
I didn’t have WiFi at work, get it back and spend my time on a meaningless Star Wars thread when I should have been here. Awesome.

Darla Moore need any interns?

NewSpring about to have a bunch of paid choir boys now. Gonna have to pass that plate out an extra time or two during service. Maybe get Baby Billy Freeman to stop by their North Charleston store.... “church” at some point.


EA finna eat - in 2021. Even if they started production tomorrow morning, they won’t have a gams worth a damn for at least 18 months.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:25 pm to
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I didn’t have WiFi at work,

You don’t have cell service at work?
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43201 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:30 pm to
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And like POOF, there goes amateur sports


For all intents and purposes, amateurism in college sports died a LONG time ago.

I have no problems with this.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43201 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:31 pm to
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That and 2K college basketball please.


2K died years before the Ed O'Bannon debacle. No one was buying it.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:51 pm to
Kodar,

Correct. Ironically, the media entity that runs the sport is also responsible for slowly killing it in terms of attendance and parity.

But no one sees that either.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4607 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:52 pm to
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I really don’t think non traditional schools that just happen to be in big markets will get big because of this


I completely agree. I think Northwestern is a decent example though. Moderate P5 success. I think, once this goes through, these schools will start punching above their weight in recruiting. What I imagine is a recruit listing his top programs and those programs putting packages together for him. In that you'd have schools leveraging the economic power of a city like Austin, Chicago, or Los Angeles against that of Columbia or Lincoln.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 4:58 pm to
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Don't want to get called out for cheap tricks? Don't fricking play them.


Again, stop being a fricking idiot.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 5:01 pm to
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For all intents and purposes, amateurism in college sports died a LONG time ago.



This. Anyone still deluded otherwise was kidding themselves.
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