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re: BREAKING: The NCAA will allow athletes to be compensated for their names, images and liken

Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:30 pm to
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Let Jimmy Haslam open the checkbook and see what happens.


A year or two of sinking millions on some high schoolers turning into busts/a coach shitting the bed despite talent (See Tenn.) will shut those checkbooks really fricking fast.
Posted by Andynola
Member since Aug 2014
738 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:31 pm to
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EA Sports.


My favorite sports video game experience was being able to play career mode in NCAA Football, then get drafted in Madden and play out 15 yr Pro Career.

Bring it back.




Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:31 pm to
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This has been the crux of the matter for me. People keep saying "Parity is dead! Amateurism is gone! College sports are ruined!" Yes, because that wasn't already the case.

Pretty negative for me to say this
But South Carolina wasn’t going to win a title in my time
The odds have gone down now with this, but I’ve already been there
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25857 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:31 pm to
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Think of all the officially licensed gear they'd sell after that.
The same could be said if LSU or any other school with a Nike contract won a national title
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:32 pm to
Oregon currently doesn’t even have the largest Nike deal among college sports programs
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:33 pm to
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Pretty negative for me to say this
But South Carolina wasn’t going to win a title in my time
The odds have gotten down now with this, but I’ve already been there

It's just the reality of CFB. No one wants to talk about the elephant in the room, but over half of all CFB teams have a nigh 0% realistic chance of winning a natty in the current state of affairs. Players making money off likeness will not change that, or will change it so little that virtually nothing changes anyway.
Posted by Kodar
Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
4630 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:34 pm to
TIL
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:36 pm to
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Wouldn’t it be more lucrative for a team with a larger fanbase to win though?
Especially larger schools with large fanbases and large alumni bases?
Like Ohio State Penn State Texas and Michigan?



I remember seeing Miami shite everywhere, including Wisconsin, during the Jimmy years.

Miami is a small school.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:37 pm to
In just cash Oregon makes 2-2.5m a year
Nike pays Texas 7.5m a year

Not even the largest (that’s 3rd)
UA pays UCLA 9m
Adidas pays Louisville 7.9

This all as of Sept 2018 that i could find

Oregon just renewed their deal in 2018
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:39 pm to
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I remember seeing Miami shite everywhere, including Wisconsin, during the Jimmy years.

Miami is a small school.

Miami was big college football name with national titles
They also currently now because of that history have one of the larger apparel deals in the country

Miami is not Rutgers or Northwestern
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:40 pm to
Where are your numbers from? I ask as this is UW's.

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The University of Wisconsin agreed to a 10-year deal with Under Armour on Friday worth a total of $96 million in cash and the retail value of products received. The deal will begin on July 1, 2016, after Wisconsin's 15-year relationship with Adidas comes to an end.
Posted by Vestigial Morgan
Member since Apr 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:41 pm to
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Nike already spends a ton on college athletics. They're not going to start spending MORE because of this, they'll just take money from other buckets. If player income goes up from boosters, program income is going to go down.

I genuinely believe this is a wash. Phil Knight isn't going to start spending more money than he already does at Oregon


I don't think Nike will be that big a deal in this space. They still need to sell Bama LSU Clemson etc gear. Phil Knight....absolutely. Michael Dell...yeah. What's 2 million more if it means getting the players...now billionaires egos come into play. Itll be like corporate softball games where somehow alex rodriguez works for one company...except it'll ringers stocked to the alma materb to beat so and so's alma mater
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:41 pm to
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Miami was big college football name with national titles


Miami was nothing before Jimmy.

You are completely missing the point.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
84316 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Miami was nothing before Howard Schnellenberger
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23036 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Wouldn’t it be more lucrative for a team with a larger fanbase to win though?
Especially larger schools with large fanbases and large alumni bases?
Like Ohio State Penn State Texas and Michigan?

How does that negate the argument though? Is it a better outcome that Nike/Adidas/whoever puts all/most of their eggs in the most lucrative basket to make sure their sweetheart gets the biggest and best recruits?

ETA: also, I'm not saying that apparel sponsors are the most important piece here. They're just one piece of the puzzle in all this. Boosters, "official injury attorneys," etc. are all in this.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:44 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:44 pm to
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Where are your numbers from? I ask as this is UW's.

I’m talking JUST cash
Wisconsin is on it too

In JUST CASH Wisconsin makes 4 mil a year

If we add in apparel the numbers i said go up as well

Even with apparel Oregon doesn’t crack the top 20 and they just renewed theirs

LINK

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:45 pm to
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in the most lucrative basket to make sure their sweetheart gets the biggest and best recruits?

Yes

And if this is the case Oregon is not the Nike “sweetheart”
Sure Knight went to Oregon

But they’d be much better off investing more in Texas

This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27167 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:45 pm to
Good
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:46 pm to
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Miami was nothing before Jimmy.

You are completely missing the point.


All I’m trying to say is this doesn’t make schools in “big markets” all the sudden national powers like people seem to say.

Teams like Alabama, Texas, Ohio State etc will just get richer
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 3:46 pm to
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What's 2 million more if it means getting the players...now billionaires egos come into play. Itll be like corporate softball games where somehow alex rodriguez works for one company...except it'll ringers stocked to the alma materb to beat so and so's alma mater


I just think it's absolutely insane to think 7 figure totals will be thrown around left and right. These people don't care as much as us.
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