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re: Bill Simmons Says Dennis Rodman Wasn't Interesting

Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:26 pm to
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You’ve heard over and over again the Detroit teammates and Daly refer to him as innocent and naive.


You and I disagree on other things, but not here.

Seeing Rodman's personal life an upbringing in this documentary would make him far more compelling, IMO. He's actually very sympathetic when you consider why he wound up with the public persona he did.

I don't think it's too much to suggest that he created the public persona he did because he didn't feel ok in his own skin. The public persona just consumed him. I find that a lot more intriguing than the generic wild and crazy guy we got in this documentary.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:30 pm to
NBA player shooting 50% from the free throw line is always interesting in and of itself.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:31 pm to
Agree, I think he did it as a defense mechanism as well as a way to be accepted. He could always use the new persona to avoid talking about his actual life and being such a wild public figure connected him to others like him. Even if it was superficial and shallow he at least had a few hours where people were showing him affection. If you’ve even known a genuinely innocent person who has a spouse betray them it can be devastating and being in public 24/7 had to have accelerated that tremendously. But you’re right if we had a linear unfiltered story on him I think it would be very interesting.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 3:34 pm
Posted by Rep520
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

Agree, I think he did it as a defense mechanism as well as a way to be accepted. He could always use the new persona to avoid talking about his actual life and being such a wild public figure connected him to others like him.


I think it was also because he created a public persona who didn't care about anything. It was a direct way of camouflaging the fact that he actually was very sensitive and cared a lot.

It's covering up being hurt by acting like you DGAF. He cornered the market on that in SA and Chi.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

I don't think it's too much to suggest that he created the public persona he did because he didn't feel ok in his own skin. The public persona just consumed him. I find that a lot more intriguing than the generic wild and crazy guy we got in this documentary.



Part of this was in the Bad Boys doc and then had his own separate documentary. They weren’t going to go too deep on him. Jesus Christ
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:37 pm to
I think many in the LBGTQ community would probably disagree. Being an athlete & an ally to that community was really unheard of that the time. That alone makes him unique to most 80’s & 90’s athletes. On the surface fans see that as attention seeking, but imagine having to go into the locker room & face teammates.

Listen to him tell the story about Madonna wanting to fly him out & pay him to impregnate her. Yea, that’s totally normal lol.

shite just listen to his teammates & Phil Jackson talk about him. They had to handle him differently. And it was accepted because he was so good. Not sure how that can be an act or attention seeking. He was uniquely himself for a while. Once he got out of basketball, it was different.,
Posted by navy
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:37 pm to
Which Piston teammate was sleeping with Worm’s wife?

I have never heard that.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:39 pm to
Bingo
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:42 pm to
I’ve always wondered why people find Bill Simmons so interesting
Posted by WaterLink
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:42 pm to
Nowadays we hear about wacky shite a bunch of random people do on the internet all the time. Back then we didn't really have that luxury and he was a pivotable player for the bad boy Pistons and then anchored the second 3 peat of the bulls dynasty so he was in the spotlight.

Dont get it twisted. Dude was/is a weird guy. He married himself and dressed in drag. Back then you didn't get exposed to that much so he became the spotlight of "man what a bizarre individual" but with social media and the internet these days we've become desensitized to stuff like that so it doesn't seem like it should be as big of a deal as it was back then but the fact remains it was. And it doesn't make him any less weird or interesting or whatever adjective you want to use.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:46 pm to
I haven't listened yet, but Rodman is interesting in the same way Tiger King is interesting...I mean watching a trainwreck is always interesting so I don't really know what he means by this.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 3:48 pm to
I think it was Vinnie Johnson. Rodman’s ex wife Annie Bakes wrote a book “Worse than he says he is” and named him I believe.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 3:51 pm
Posted by hg
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:02 pm to
Nobody sniffs their own farts more than Bill Simmons
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

He married himself and dressed in drag.

But I think that's the type of stuff that is less interesting. Just a complete stunt for attention that wears thin pretty quickly.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:03 pm to
If Rodman had Joel Embiid's twitter game, he may be Supreme Leader of North Korea right now.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:04 pm to
Doing interesting things is jsut arse interesting if not more interesing than just saying interesting things.

althought he was fricking nuts in the PMT interview.

He claims he broke his penis twice but jsut having a girl try and jump onto an errection
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:12 pm to
Actually Ryen Russilo said it
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Doing relatively crazy things just for the sake of doing something relatively crazy does not, in and of itself, make one interesting. I'd assume that was his point.


as opposed to the normies out there? There was only one Rodman.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:32 pm to
Edit, I see you guys covered this upthread. Vinnie Johnson banged his wife, which is one of the things that made him go crazy.
This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 4:36 pm
Posted by thermal9221
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 4:37 pm to
Know who’s not interesting?
Bill simmons.
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