re: Auburn football now claims nine national championships, including 1993 & 2004

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We gonna act like auburn wasnt paying players too?

USC just got sloppy

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i didn't say i don't support it, just that it doesn't raise my ire.

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I'm cool with whatever they claim pre BCS (even though the 93 is laughable), why not. But claiming 2004 is just silly.

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Claiming a 14-0 championship while running through the SEC with ease is a layup claim of a National Championship.

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2004 is their most legit one of them all though.

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There was a BCS National Championship game. They weren’t in it

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There was a BCS National Championship game. They weren’t in it

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Before the current playoff system, it was a pretty common occurrence for multiple national champions in a given year. You pointing out the fact that they didn't play in the BCS national championship game in 2004 as a reason why they should not be recognized as national champions that year would completely contradict the nation, outside of LA, willing to recognize USC & LSU has co-champions in 2003

Not that it matters, but saw both USC and Auburn play VT that year...

Auburn was the better team of the two in my opinion. Better defense by far.

I am not one into sour grapes as I know USC was a better team than VT, but on that day, the refs made sure there was never a doubt. The offensive pass interfence in the 3rd when VT was down near the USC 10 to take a 17 to 7 lead would have made a huge difference. Killed the momentum and next series Reggie Bush got a pass out of the backfield for a long td and it was over.

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There was a BCS National Championship game. They weren’t in it

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And the BCS formula was also a flawed system. They removed the Strength of Schedule / Quality wins from the computer formulas. Auburn had more top 10 and top 25 wins than USC or Oklahoma that year. USC also played an ineligible player all year and vacated the BCS trophy.

Auburn has more than reasonable claim to 2004. The rest I have no idea what they’re talking about

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removed the Strength of Schedule / Quality wins from the computer formulas.

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Not they didn’t. The lump took out the separate SOS formula that was used because the computer formula already counted it and despite what people think the human voters do factor it in their rankings other wise Hawaii would have been in the BCSCG in 2007.

The “quality wins” piece of the formula was a joke, it was only added after 2000 when FSU went over Miami because get this their SOS was better.

The later BCS formula was perfect, not overly complicated. The trouble in 2004 was 3 power teams all went undefeated so in a 2 team format someone was getting left out. It was the weakest year for the SEC in the last 20+ years.

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Thanks for making my point. USC didnt play in the 2003 game either

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chalmetteowl

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Like I said, outside of LA