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re: Are the College Football Playoffs a Failure?
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:34 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:34 pm to RD Dawg
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More? The semi final games have been shite shows (about a 25 pt spread)
So we wanna add more games/blowouts?
Y'all act like the blowouts have always been 1 and 2 teams winning.
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:34 pm to dcrews
"let's give Baylor a playoff chance"
said no one ever. please stop talking dude
said no one ever. please stop talking dude
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:39 pm to slackster
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but the #4 seed winning it twice validates the fact we're not doing a great job ranking them
that's just nonsense. 1 of the 4 seeds was the #1 seed until they were upset in the final of game of the regular season. They were a 4 seed only because they did not win their conference. The other 4 seed was the first year and of the 4 teams, they had the worst loss of the 3 teams with a loss. The one undefeated team that year was the 3 and got boat raced. Overall the seeding has been fine.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:39 pm to RD Dawg
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We already have an 8 team playoffs with conference championship games.
And here's this BS line again.
How the frick can anyone say this with a straight face when 2 schools got in the Playoff without even playing in a conference championship game? Hell, 1 of them got in OVER THE CONFERENCE CHAMPION!
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:45 pm to red sox fan 13
Want to make the bowls count? Make them be only for playoff games. 16 or 12 teams with byes and that would fill up the bowl games and allow teams to earn actual meaningful consequences. Don’t make the playoffs don’t play in a bowl game
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:50 pm to Cowboyfan89
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They've ALWAYS been meaningless exhibitions if they aren't for the National Championship. Why don't people understand this? This hasn't changed.
probably because it's not true. Though it's not the playoff that "killed" the bowls, it was the BCS, but really its that times and preferences change and fans have been wanting something more than the old bowl, MNC system. In the past there wasn't as much emphasis on the National Championship, and you had years even in the 90's where 3 or even 4 bowls could produce the MNC.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:51 pm to red sox fan 13
quote:Can you explain how those games are more meaningless with the CFP than they were with the BCS?
Now though, with the playoff, the bowls seem like lousy consolation games. The teams don't care because it's a meaningless exhibition now, and fans don't want to go because there's not much of a point.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
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that's just nonsense. 1 of the 4 seeds was the #1 seed until they were upset in the final of game of the regular season. They were a 4 seed only because they did not win their conference. The other 4 seed was the first year and of the 4 teams, they had the worst loss of the 3 teams with a loss. The one undefeated team that year was the 3 and got boat raced. Overall the seeding has been fine.
The other #4 was the first year and jumped two teams with 1 loss the last week of the season. Baylor and TCU had a great case as well.
The #4 team was #5 going into the last week and moved up without having to play another game while the team that fell was in until the conference championship game. It was horseshite.
Those #4s winning prove that the margin isn't nearly as wide as people are acting. This year is the anomaly, not the norm.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:55 pm to Cowboyfan89
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How the frick can anyone say this with a straight face when 2 schools got in the Playoff without even playing in a conference championship game? Hell, 1 of them got in OVER THE CONFERENCE CHAMPION!
In the case of 2017 Alabama, had Wisconsin won the B1G CG, they would have gotten the 4 seed. Some even thought Ohio State might even with 2 losses. The year Ohio State got in they had 3 wins over top 10 teams and lost to Penn St on a fluky play, plus PSU had 2 really bad loses. The last 3 SECCG the loser was knocked out and in 2014 Ohio St made because of their dominating win.
The real problem i have with 8, is you could wind up when a team that doesn't have to play in it gets in over a team that loses one. If you go to 8 you should either eliminate them or not allow teams that finish 2nd in a division into the playoff.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:59 pm to slackster
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I don't see any cons, honestly
Here's one. The fact that theres 16 f'n days between the semifinals and championship game. That's absurd.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:02 pm to H-Town Tiger
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In the case of 2017 Alabama, had Wisconsin won the B1G CG, they would have gotten the 4 seed. Some even thought Ohio State might even with 2 losses. The year Ohio State got in they had 3 wins over top 10 teams and lost to Penn St on a fluky play, plus PSU had 2 really bad loses. The last 3 SECCG the loser was knocked out and in 2014 Ohio St made because of their dominating win.
I don't disagree or dispute any of that, but that's not the point. The point is the argument that the Conference Title games are play-in games is asinine.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:03 pm to slackster
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The #4 team was #5 going into the last week and moved up without having to play another game while the team that fell was in until the conference championship game. It was horseshite.
I 100% agree, teams should not benefit by not playing in a game others have to because they won a division. I've always said i think the standard should be most deserving not "best teams"
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Those #4s winning prove that the margin isn't nearly as wide as people are acting. This year is the anomaly, not the norm.
That's a different point then saying the 4 seeds winning proves the seeding was wrong
Actually when everyone was melting over LSU being the 2 seed, i made basically the same point, that it doesn't matter if you are 1 or 2, the response of course was that its better to play OU than Clemson, which is just for this particular year. In 2017 i would have rather been the 2 than have to play Bama with an extra week off.
That said i still think 4 is fine.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:05 pm to BCLA
I did a double take when i checked the schedule and saw that the Lending Tree Bowl is on Jan 6th
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:15 pm to I Bleed Garnet
It depends on the context. If the question is are they eliminating controversies surrounding the naming of a national champion then they are working. If the question is are they making the bowl season more interesting overall no they are not working.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:30 pm to Cowboyfan89
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How the frick can anyone say this with a straight face when 2 schools got in the Playoff without even playing in a conference championship game
Wow,2 whole teams outta 20 playoff teams? STOP THE FREAKIN PRESSES!
We don't need anymore playoff teams PERIOD and the CCG's have helped settle this issue multiple times.WTF is the purpose of the CCG's if you're just gonna have to beat the same team AGAIN in the CFP?
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:47 pm to slackster
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What's the harm
A. it becomes “ok” to drop a couple games in regular season.
B. we get more shite games in postseason.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:56 pm to slackster
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Those #4s winning prove that the margin isn't nearly as wide as people are acting. This year is the anomaly, not the norm.
the 4 seeds are 2-4 in round 1 in six years.
the 4 losses were by
35
11
21
20
that’s not an anomaly at this point.
them losing by 20+ is more common than them winning.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:01 pm to red sox fan 13
Good OP I’m surprised why it has so many downvotes
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:37 pm to red sox fan 13
So of 130 teams, realistically maybe 15 or 25 have the resources to compete for a playoff spot year after year.
We are 4 years in and of 16 possible teams we’ve had 3 SEC teams(5 spots of 16), 2 PAC 12 team, 2 ACC teams(5 of 16), 2 B1G teams (3 of 16), and Notre Dame.
In the NFL, success leads to low draft picks. The pack can catch up.
In college, success leads to the best recruits choosing your program.
The rich get richer.
A team can break through, but college is sort of set up for the name brands.
NFL has more parity.
We are 4 years in and of 16 possible teams we’ve had 3 SEC teams(5 spots of 16), 2 PAC 12 team, 2 ACC teams(5 of 16), 2 B1G teams (3 of 16), and Notre Dame.
In the NFL, success leads to low draft picks. The pack can catch up.
In college, success leads to the best recruits choosing your program.
The rich get richer.
A team can break through, but college is sort of set up for the name brands.
NFL has more parity.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:51 pm to red sox fan 13
You forgot the biggest Con of all:
They got rid of the crystal ball national championship trophy.
They got rid of the crystal ball national championship trophy.
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