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re: Anyone else became a bigger fan of LeBron AFTER "The Decision"?
Posted on 6/18/16 at 10:10 pm to Tarik One
Posted on 6/18/16 at 10:10 pm to Tarik One
the fact that anyone outside of Cleveland would be upset about him going to Miami is fricking INSANE!! absolutely, stone cold INSANE!!
how do some people justify their hate for a guy that didn't leave YOUR team??? seriously, it's fricking crazy.... and for those that say he assembled the miami squads, it goes to show just how much they DON'T know about sports...
how do some people justify their hate for a guy that didn't leave YOUR team??? seriously, it's fricking crazy.... and for those that say he assembled the miami squads, it goes to show just how much they DON'T know about sports...
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Posted on 6/18/16 at 11:07 pm to Tarik One
I had never heard of the guy until ESPN did The Decision.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 11:16 pm to brmark70816
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Plus he isn't the player he should be. He is a natural PF, that could/should dominate the game from the inside out (I thought finally got that when he was with the Heat). Instead he tries to control the game from the perimeter. It just turns him into a jump shooter. He should be better, which makes all his failures seem appropriate..
quote:Posts like these make me glad I rarely read this poisonous forum.
But it costs him in effectiveness.
Posted on 6/18/16 at 11:56 pm to Tarik One
I've become a "sort of" fan after all this complaining by the Warrior "fans". I wouldn't mind Cleveland/Kyrie winning one. If James wins, he wins. He is a treat to have watched though.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:16 am to forksup
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I've become a "sort of" fan after all this complaining by the Warrior "fans"
Where do y'all see these Warrior fans? Y'all act like its the majority of the board but i feel very much in the minority cheering for the Warriors in this series on this board. It's pretty 50/50 elsewhere.
I also find it funny that y'all just claim all these "NBA is rigged" folks are Warriors fans when we've literally seen those threads every single playoff series since I've been on this board
Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:36 am to Tarik One
Yes because like most Heat fans, I have been a Heat fan since the early 1970s
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:56 am to Roger Klarvin
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There was no shame in what happened in Cleveland from 2003-2010, he had them in contention almost every year by himself. They never got him any help.
Exactly. And they showed no signs of ever attempting to. So why is Lebron faulted for going to a better situation?
Why don't people get pissed at Jordan for getting pippen(and then rodman) on his team instead of winning championships by himself?
Why don't people hate Kobe for getting Shaq on his team instead of winning by himself?
Why don't people discredit Shaq for going to play for the lakers instead of winning where he was drafted? Btw, that Orlando team/organization he left was MUCH better than Cleveland was in 2010.
Why don't people devalue bird or magic's championships that were won with great supporting casts?
It's not enough that Lebron is the only player that seems to be punished for not winning a championship when he was the only respectable player on his team. He's actually punished for the championships he did win when he finally did have some help, even though he was clearly still the best and most important player on those teams. Nobody else is faulted for that.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:17 am to brmark70816
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But it costs him in effectiveness
again
list out those seasons from a 4 that top his 5 best PERs
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Playing PF allows the team to put another athlete on the court beside him.
he did just fine in miami with bosh as the 4
and an "athlete" isn't needed as much as a shooter, b/c he handles the ball and runs the offense so well
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:17 am to Open Your Eyes
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It's not enough that Lebron is the only player that seems to be punished for not winning a championship when he was the only respectable player on his team. He's actually punished for the championships he did win when he finally did have some help, even though he was clearly still the best and most important player on those teams. Nobody else is faulted for that.
People get annoyed with Lebron's super team because of how it came about. Simple as that. It was one of the most awful PR moves in recent sports history from a guy that has had many.
I agree it is silly to hold his supporting cast against him when analyzing his championships. Especielly because most of those same people will in the same breath bash him for not winning two chips with the Cavs as if those are failures and not testaments to how great he is for dragging those teams as far as he did.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:21 am to Tarik One
Didnt care until he became a hypocrite. Said your legacy isnt defined by how many championships you win. Runs to Miami to win championships 
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:21 am to Tarik One
I have never judged anyone for wanting to leave Cleveland
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:31 am to NOLA Bronco
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People get annoyed with Lebron's super team because of how it came about. Simple as that. It was one of the most awful PR moves in recent sports history from a guy that has had many.
Ok. But why?
Nothing he did was illegal. He didn't break any rules. He didn't do anything that couldn't be done by anyone else in the nba.
And in the end, the result was no different than Shaq going to the lakers. Or Shaq going to the heat. Or Garnett and Allen going to Boston. Or gasol going to the Lakers.
If anything, the entire situation should've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was the right move to get away from such a shitty Cleveland organization. Time and time again, good players were taking substantially less money than they could've gotten elsewhere to go to Miami to play with Lebron. Yet Cleveland couldn't get ANYBODY there to help him? And somehow that's lebron' fault?
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:38 am to SabiDojo
quote:Sabi I think we are twinsies. I use to not like Lebron, and I still don't particularly like his personality. But the irrational hate and retarded hot takes that started made me root for him
hen. Then I realized that I really had no objective reason to dislike him, and the fact people turned on him overnight was ludicrous to me.
He will never win
He doesn't have "it"
He isn't clutch
He isn't a leader
Every single one of those was proven false multiple times over, so now they hate him because "he isn't as good as MJ"
Well if that is your metric for hating people, you should hate every human being in the world
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 10:39 am
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:39 am to Open Your Eyes
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Ok. But why?
Nothing he did was illegal. He didn't break any rules. He didn't do anything that couldn't be done by anyone else in the nba.
And in the end, the result was no different than Shaq going to the lakers. Or Shaq going to the heat. Or Garnett and Allen going to Boston. Or gasol going to the Lakers.
Good and bad PR isnt determined by legality. WTF kind of response is that haha.
Shaq went to the Lakers because he was low balled from the Magic. He didn't go on TV and rip the heart out of his Cleveland fanbase after dedicating an hour to his own greatness and the spectacle that led up to and followed it.
There is a reason there is no Decision 2.0 and will never be one on TV any time soon. It was a PR blunder of massive proportions when it comes to Lebron's brand.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:43 am to Open Your Eyes
Antwan Jamison was a 21/9 player when the cavs acquired him. Gasol, Garnett, Allen, etc are nowhere close to lebrons level. He had potential to be GOAT. When discussing The greatest players ever, there should be a higher standard. I don't hate Lebron him going to Miami just was disappointing because he didn't have it in him to stick it out and win titles without teaming up with 2 other top 10 players.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 10:45 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:And?
He was one of three future HOFers all in their prime
He put those 2 guys on his back and led them to 2 titles.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:03 am to Roger Klarvin
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There was no shame in what happened in Cleveland from 2003-2010, he had them in contention almost every year by himself. They never got him any help.
So why stay? This is the part i dont get. Why do people hate him for realizing the franchise wasnt doing shite and wanting better? shite... he still went back. They should applaid him for standing up for himself if anything.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:04 am to shel311
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He put those 2 guys on his back and led them to 2 titles.
LOL that is some serious revisionist nonsense.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:14 am to SohCahToa
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So why stay?
Loyalty. It's his town. His team. And he quit on them.
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:17 am to NOLA Bronco
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Good and bad PR isnt determined by legality. WTF kind of response is that haha.
I'm trying to figure out how it was such an awful PR move, something so terrible that people are still mad about it 6(?) years later.
Earlier said it was a bad PR move by a guy that has had many. I disagree. Up to that point, what other bad PR moves had Lebron had? Are we going all the way back to high school when he was driving a hummer?
I honestly think that's a big part of the problem. This guy has been talked about, in the spotlight, on magazine covers, etc for 15 years now, and has never given a legitimate reason to be disliked, and people don't know how to handle that. He's not a known gambling addict, he's never been accused of rape, he's not a well-known a-hole, he doesn't have x amount of kids with y different women, etc. The worst thing people can say about him is that he announced what team he was going to play for next year on tv. And oh btw, that announcement on TV raised literally millions of dollars for charity.
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Shaq went to the Lakers because he was low balled from the Magic.
And Lebron left Cleveland because the organization refused to help him. And he took less money to do it.
Athlete A leaves one team for another because he feels it's a better chance to win a championship, and takes a paycut in the process. Athlete B leaves one team for another because the other team pays him more.
Both situations above happen all the time in every sport. 99% of the time, the first situation is thought of as more admirable than the second situation. Lebron accounts for the other 1%.
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He didn't go on TV and rip the heart out of his Cleveland fanbase after dedicating an hour to his own greatness and the spectacle that led up to and followed it.
That's certainly an interesting, partisan take on what happened in that situation.
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was a PR blunder of massive proportions when it comes to Lebron's brand.
What does this mean exactly? Lebron's brand has grown in value every year, and is more valuable than ever.
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