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re: Adam Silver floating the idea of abolishing the NBA Draft to end tanking...
Posted on 2/16/26 at 1:04 pm to HangmanPage1
Posted on 2/16/26 at 1:04 pm to HangmanPage1
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I just don’t understand how this is actually a problem when it wasn’t for years
Personally I think it has always been a problem
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Is the real problem “There are too many games given the players current attitudes and how the organizations handle tanking?”
Also valid
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Posted on 2/16/26 at 1:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Personally I think it has always been a problem
It’s been a problem and it is why there is a lottery to begin with, as the Rockets tanking to get Hakeem after getting Ralph Samson a year before.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 1:22 pm to Fun Bunch
1. Eliminate the NBA Draft in its entirety. Rookies are free agents.
2. Create a new and improved "loyalty bonus". Each team may grant 33% salary bonuses to up to five players that are not counted against the cap. Players must have played at least one season with the team to be eligible. This would help small markets teams keep their star players and their core players together.
3. Reduce the regular season to 58 games to have a clean double round-robin format to increase the value of each regular season game, reduce injuries, and drive higher viewership.
4. Eliminate divisions and conferences.
2. Create a new and improved "loyalty bonus". Each team may grant 33% salary bonuses to up to five players that are not counted against the cap. Players must have played at least one season with the team to be eligible. This would help small markets teams keep their star players and their core players together.
3. Reduce the regular season to 58 games to have a clean double round-robin format to increase the value of each regular season game, reduce injuries, and drive higher viewership.
4. Eliminate divisions and conferences.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 1:25 pm to BreakawayZou83
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Create a new and improved "loyalty bonus". Each team may grant 33% salary bonuses to up to five players that are not counted against the cap. Players must have played at least one season with the team to be eligible. This would help small markets teams keep their star players and their core players together.
This would have to go away if that player is traded, or else players will just demand trades once they get the bag, like they do now (to get the salary advantages for re-signing).
Posted on 2/16/26 at 1:58 pm to BreakawayZou83
Isn’t there no real penalty for going over the salary cap? Essentially pay small fine and that’s it?
Getting rid of the draft sounds interesting, but I think you’d need a very enforceable salary cap. If not then you’re looking at teams with money staying stacked while small market teams not being able to compete. Get rid of those special rules that allow you to be over.
Getting rid of the draft sounds interesting, but I think you’d need a very enforceable salary cap. If not then you’re looking at teams with money staying stacked while small market teams not being able to compete. Get rid of those special rules that allow you to be over.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This would have to go away if that player is traded, or else players will just demand trades once they get the bag, like they do now (to get the salary advantages for re-signing).
Yes.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 2:16 pm to RohanGonzales
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That is an alien-looking motherfricker
Stephen Miller's brother from another mother.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 2:23 pm to Indfanfromcol
Until the actual NBA gets held accountable for fixing the fricking draft lottery, this crap will still happen (see this year, Mavs magically won after the worst trade in recent history).
Here's what I think should happen:
1. As some have said, make the non-playoff teams actually compete for the top picks in the draft. Once they are eliminated from playoff contention, then they need to try and win.
2. As above, the teams who finish at the very bottom get penalized, but enact a Euro soccer type thing and relegate the bottom 2 teams each year. Want expansion teams? Start them in the G-League and move them up. That would mean the G-League needs to stand alone and not be so tied to each team like they are.
3. SEVERLY penalize teams for "load management", players need to play since fans pay to watch said players. To facilitate this, stop playing so many games and set a realistic schedule that is not so hard on players.
4. Replace the Alien Adam Silver, he has done nothing but destroy the league.
The NBA is becoming harder and harder to watch with players thinking they run everything. Stop with the super team shite and keep players where they are drafted and not constantly going to big market teams.
Here's what I think should happen:
1. As some have said, make the non-playoff teams actually compete for the top picks in the draft. Once they are eliminated from playoff contention, then they need to try and win.
2. As above, the teams who finish at the very bottom get penalized, but enact a Euro soccer type thing and relegate the bottom 2 teams each year. Want expansion teams? Start them in the G-League and move them up. That would mean the G-League needs to stand alone and not be so tied to each team like they are.
3. SEVERLY penalize teams for "load management", players need to play since fans pay to watch said players. To facilitate this, stop playing so many games and set a realistic schedule that is not so hard on players.
4. Replace the Alien Adam Silver, he has done nothing but destroy the league.
The NBA is becoming harder and harder to watch with players thinking they run everything. Stop with the super team shite and keep players where they are drafted and not constantly going to big market teams.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 2:27 pm to Indfanfromcol
To me, the salary cap is the biggest issue of all. You have a “soft cap” of around 150 million. And then some teams have a salary of over 200 million. So naturally the teams willing to pay the luxury tax are going to have better players and therefore win. The teams sitting under the cap will continue to lose.
League needs to go to a hard cap of say 150 million. 15 roster spots, average 10 million per player. If you want to sign three superstars worth 30-40 million each, you were gonna have absolutely nothing around them. No more letting all the stars just team up on the big markets. Make teams develop rosters of role players around their one or two stars.
Then take the non playoff teams and give them the exact same odds to get picks 1-8, then the play in teams who didn’t make it, then the playoff teams go in order like it is currently.
No more trading draft picks that are further out than 1-2 years. Don’t let teams rent away their future 6 years from now then just figure it out later. No more protected picks to discourage teams from tanking to save their pick they traded away on a whim.
Drop about 10-12 games off the schedule and make sure there is never a back to back game. Get rid of load management and sitting uninjured players.
There are ways to fix the issue if the NBA really wants it fixed.
League needs to go to a hard cap of say 150 million. 15 roster spots, average 10 million per player. If you want to sign three superstars worth 30-40 million each, you were gonna have absolutely nothing around them. No more letting all the stars just team up on the big markets. Make teams develop rosters of role players around their one or two stars.
Then take the non playoff teams and give them the exact same odds to get picks 1-8, then the play in teams who didn’t make it, then the playoff teams go in order like it is currently.
No more trading draft picks that are further out than 1-2 years. Don’t let teams rent away their future 6 years from now then just figure it out later. No more protected picks to discourage teams from tanking to save their pick they traded away on a whim.
Drop about 10-12 games off the schedule and make sure there is never a back to back game. Get rid of load management and sitting uninjured players.
There are ways to fix the issue if the NBA really wants it fixed.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 2:47 pm to Fun Bunch
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I actually don't agree. I think the Lotto has created a whole new problem. The bottom teams might tank bad, but I think less teams overall would
Agreed. The lottery is fricking retarded and all that needs to change. Only the nba is dumb enough to do it. And only the nba has gobs of teams tanking
Posted on 2/16/26 at 2:50 pm to saturday
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Or just give every team that doesn't make the playoffs one lotto ball
This is the way
But the problem is that the lotto is rigged
Posted on 2/16/26 at 2:53 pm to NWLATigerFan12
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To me, the salary cap is the biggest issue of all.
2nd apron basically solved this and the results have been bad, so far, just FWIW.
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No more trading draft picks that are further out than 1-2 years. Don’t let teams rent away their future 6 years from now then just figure it out later. No more protected picks to discourage teams from tanking to save their pick they traded away on a whim.
Restrictions on draft picks definitely seems to be a good avenue to help.
Removing the ability to protect picks, removing the ability to send picks too far in the future, etc. The problem is that this can't exist if players get to demand trades, and there is no good solution for that right now (another bit of rationality that didn't exist in the past. Players understand their value now and didn't in the past).
Posted on 2/16/26 at 3:10 pm to saturday
This is the right answer.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 3:31 pm to Fun Bunch
Small market teams should move if that happens
Posted on 2/16/26 at 3:32 pm to Fun Bunch
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I'm ok with the worst teams tanking. This would help them get better.
Provided they dont have an incompetent GM who gives away their lottery pick when he doesn't have to.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 3:36 pm to BreakawayZou83
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3. Reduce the regular season to 58 games to have a clean double round-robin format to increase the value of each regular season game, reduce injuries, and drive higher viewership.
So TV has less games to show; teams have less games to sell tickets to and generate revenue from. Reducing the season 24 games simply won't happen. Its not realistic.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 3:39 pm to LSUgrad88
get rid of the draft.
Implement relegation and promotion using the g league or something similar.
Implement relegation and promotion using the g league or something similar.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 3:40 pm to Fun Bunch
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Silver almost gets it. Get rid of lotto. Worst teams get the best picks just like in the NFL. Fine teams substantially larger sums (millions) for blatant tanking (keeping healthy players out of games)
Not sure if it will eliminate tanking but:
Make every rookie a free agent
Set a rookie contract salary cap
Make a teams’ finish position to dictate the sum off the rookie salary cap
Make the differences substantial
Make the 2nd contract available that initial team be tied to the amount you signed your rookie contract for, meaning if you choose to go cheap on the rookie contract, your second contract will be cheap. Make these contracts shorter (maybe 6 years combined?)
Don’t have the players hit true, unfettered free agency until after that second contract.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:03 pm to HangmanPage1
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I just don’t understand how this is actually a problem when it wasn’t for years.
Because teams actively tried not to be terrible. Now that teams are actively tanking, even within games, the number of games is causing tanking to be pushed to the forefront.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:28 pm to Fun Bunch
If a team wants to tank let them it’s a business decision. When these draft picks end up being a bust they will rethink it.
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