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re: 2024 Formula 1 season Thread

Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:51 am to
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:51 am to
mclaren is the goat of special liveries.
Posted by notsince98
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:52 am to
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Got a link?


No link but if you follow the intervals between Lando and Max for the last 10+ laps, you can easily see when Max goes on harder on certain laps. It seemed pretty obvious because his times weren't consistent. Lando would get close and Max would put in a hotter lap than his previous. If Max wasn't using some strategy and going flat out, his lap times would have been more consistent with slow degradation instead of lap improvements at critical times.
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Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:52 am to
That livery is awesome but McLaren has to ditch the stupid google wheels. For the love of God, PLEASE!
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:22 am to
Senators call on Justice Department and FTC to investigate Formula 1 for rejecting Andretti Global

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WASHINGTON — A bipartisan group of influential senators is calling on the Biden administration to investigate Formula 1 over its decision to reject Andretti Global from racing on the grid in the coming years, suggesting the sport may be violating American antitrust law as it grows its U.S. fan base.

The six senators said they are “concerned” that F1 may be acting on behalf of other teams, “including foreign automakers,” to deny Andretti's bid to enter the sport in 2025 or 2026 even though its governing body, the FIA, approved its application. Formula 1 management, the commercial side of the sport, rejected its bid in January, doubting the team would be competitive or increase the value of the championship.

"It is possible that such a refusal to deal—especially if orchestrated through a group boycott—could violate U.S. antitrust laws,” the senators wrote.

The letter underscores rising interest by the U.S. government in the actions of F1 as it penetrates deeper into the American market with a growing fan base. A group of House members held a news conference with Mario Andretti on May 1 to pressure F1 to admit his team, and Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, launched an independent inquiry the next week. A Justice Department or FTC probe would represent a significant escalation.

Andretti Global has expressed appreciation to lawmakers for getting involved in the clash within the international sport.

“We are grateful to the bipartisan members of Congress for their support in challenging this anti-competitive behavior,” a spokesperson for Andretti Global said this month. “We remain committed to bringing the first US works team and power unit to F1 and to giving American fans a home team to root for.”


Posted by Diseasefreeforall
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:46 am to
F1's reasoning for the rejection wasn't exactly logical, saying that a new team would need to bring value by competing for podiums, like that's realistic for 60% of the teams now, and then saying that it would help for GM to have their power unit ready to go but that a new power unit supplier can't be expected to be competitive.

I am not a lawyer but the antitrust angle doesn't seem to hold water to me considering that there is an American team competing, so it's not like foreign interests are freezing US teams out, and Andretti obviously freely competes in a high profile open wheel racing circuit in the US, but I guess placing tariffs on F1 is out of the question.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:48 am to
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:02 am to
Bold move Checo
Posted by tccdc
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:07 am to
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Bold move Checo


The ole Pac 12 technique...

Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:08 am to
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there is an American team competing


Are they though? Lol
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:11 am to
Perez certainly has not earned a two-year contract. His up-and-down performance screams one-year contract at most. Obviously. This would explain why nothing is happening at the moment.

I wonder what the issue is with Sainz. Do they think he'd be too disruptive to the harmony of the team? Is he also asking for a longer contract than what Red Bull wants to offer?

Edit: Yuki would gladly take a one-year contract!
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 10:18 am
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:13 am to
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F1's reasoning for the rejection wasn't exactly logical, saying that a new team would need to bring value by competing for podiums, like that's realistic for 60% of the teams now


I think you are being generous. We've only seen three teams on the podium this year (Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes). I don't see Mercedes and Aston making the podium unless there are some DNFs from the better teams.

Last year was more competitive, seeing five teams on the podium (Red Bull, Mercedes, Aston Martin, Ferrari, and Alpine).
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 10:20 am to
I wondered if RB might consider moving Yuki up and Checo down this year with the way Yuki's been driving so far if the terms of Checo's contract allow it.
Posted by 1999
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:50 am to
i think the RB was just bad on the hards. i think someone pointed out the deg started around lap 15.
Posted by VABuckeye
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:15 pm to
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We've only seen three teams on the podium this year (Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes


Mclaren, not Mercedes.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:19 pm to
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I wondered if RB might consider moving Yuki up and Checo down this year with the way Yuki's been driving so far if the terms of Checo's contract allow it.

Checo's only goal is to come in P2 in the WDC... anything short of that, then sure, they're looking at other options... but if he gets P2, then there's no real reason for the upheaval

I think RB learned their lesson from the Kvyat, Gasly, Albon fiasco

Also, Yuki loses significant leverage when RB switches from Honda in 2025
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Mclaren, not Mercedes.


Ah, yes, my bad.

I don't know why I was downvoted for that. This league is incredibly top heavy. F1's stated reasoning to not allow Andretti was horseshite given how top heavy the league is.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:04 pm to
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I don't know why I was downvoted for that. This league is incredibly top heavy. F1's stated reasoning to not allow Andretti was horseshite given how top heavy the league is


Going back to Andretti, doesn't tweak anyone else a little bit that they are calling themselves an American team but are going to be based out of Silverstone?
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:08 pm to
Yeah, that does TBH. But I imagine $$$ is the motivating factor, as it is with most things.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:40 pm to
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Going back to Andretti, doesn't tweak anyone else a little bit that they are calling themselves an American team but are going to be based out of Silverstone?

Not in the least. The vast majority of F1 talent resides in the UK. Basing the operations outside of UK would greatly limit the amount of experienced F1 talent they could attract. They're already in a dodgy situation because they are not actually in F1 yet, but they are already developing and building shite.
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:43 pm to
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but if he gets P2, then there's no real reason for the upheaval



Unless as I've said numerous times, they are fearful of losing Max in 25 or 26'. Then you sign Sainz and he is your number 1 in waiting when Max jumps ship.
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