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re: 2015 NBA Offseason Thread - FA/Trade News and Rumors Here
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:09 pm to RTR America
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:09 pm to RTR America
Yeah. That chart is stupid.
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Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:10 pm to SwaggerCopter
You're stupid
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:15 pm to RTR America
Fair point.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:15 pm to SwaggerCopter
Shocking that you feel that way
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:16 pm to RTR America
You're a towel
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:18 pm to wildtigercat93
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Shocking that you feel that way
Taking win shares so seriously without accounting for injuries is useless. OKC and Houston will both gain a ton of win shares just by staying healthy.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:21 pm to SwaggerCopter
It's also assuming people are going to play the same way they did last year, and that's definitely not always the case. Especially for guys who just got paid.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:32 pm to Dawgsontop34
Yeah. Basically way too many variables that are way more important than win shares.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:34 pm to SwaggerCopter
its more, you cant use one stat as an end all be all
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:40 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Taking win shares so seriously without accounting for injuries is useless. OKC and Houston will both gain a ton of win shares just by staying healthy.
A lot of teams will gain win shares by being healthy.
Last season had tons of superstars get injured and sit out for 15+ games. Was pretty ridiculous.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:58 pm to brgfather129
I didn't mean loaded with talent. But they have a ton of players, like 19 right now. Most are former 1st rounders that never developed or still young.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 1:02 pm to Dr. Shultz
Ziller addressed basically every point that has been made in the article:
LINK
He even addressed people like me:
LINK
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The nitty gritty is ill-served by this chart -- injuries, player improvement, player regression, team schemes, minutes allotments and all of that will have bigger, unaccounted-for impacts. But I find it useful to spot interesting items for further exploration
He even addressed people like me:
quote:
Win Shares are not perfect, and some analysts (who will no doubt express their opinion in the comments section below) won't touch them with a 10-foot pole.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 2:03 pm to SwaggerCopter
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OKC and Houston will both gain a ton of win shares just by staying healthy.
Yep, it also doesn't take coaching changes (or player growth and improvement) into consideration. GS jumped 16 wins, without much of a difference in player personnel.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 2:05 pm to RTR America
Well there you go
Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:08 pm to RTR America
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Reality is ill-served by this chart
FIFZ. He can "address" every point, but that doesn't mean that the chart didn't ignore them.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 5:26 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
I want more Z charts
Posted on 7/13/15 at 5:26 pm to brmark70816
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I didn't mean loaded with talent.
I'd hope not.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:44 am to brgfather129
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:46 am to RTR America
Jeez. Dude is such a frick-up. I read last night that Morey isn't high on him because of his off the court problems and selfish personality. Apparently, Harden likes him, but Morey basically thinks it wouldn't work out.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:47 am to SwaggerCopter
Mudiay done messed him up
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