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re: Today was brutal in the old brokerage account...

Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39858 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:19 pm to
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Trump's tax cuts are seriously spooking investors. It'll be bleak if his "big beautiful bill" actually crosses the goalline.


Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
17194 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:30 pm to
All these fricking cheaters are manipulating the markets as usual.

You know. Buy low, sell high. Or sell high then buy low. It works both ways.
Timing is everything.

First: Here's some bad news.

Next: Here's some good news

Rinse, repeat.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40375 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:41 pm to
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He cut rates to help democrats in the election he can cut rates now


He cut rates again in December of last year after trump was elected.
Posted by MrBobDobalina
BRo.LA
Member since Oct 2011
3380 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19307 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:46 pm to
Keep grinding GOOGL!
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1513 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:54 pm to
It's about the BBB. Here's a snippet from Reuters:
quote:

By Chibuike Oguh

NEW YORK, May 21 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks closed sharply lower on Wednesday as Treasury yields spiked on worries that U.S. government debt would swell by trillions of dollars if Congress passes President Donald Trump's proposed tax-cut bill.

All three major Wall Street indexes closed with their biggest daily losses in a month. Small cap stocks also fell sharply, with the Russell 2000 index posting its biggest daily loss since April 10.

Longer-dated Treasury yields rose after the Treasury Department's $16 billion sale of 20-year bonds met soft demand from investors. The yield on benchmark U.S. 10-year notes rose 10.8 basis points to 4.589%. During the session, the 10-year yield hit its highest since mid-February.

A Congressional committee set an unusual hearing as House Republicans sought to overcome internal divisions about proposed budget cuts, including to the Medicaid health program.

Nonpartisan analysts said the Republican bill could add between $3 trillion and $5 trillion to the federal government's $36.2 trillion debt.

"There are any number of headlines, all of which have consequences if indeed they come to pass," said Michael Farr, chief executive officer at investment advisory firm Farr, Miller & Washington in Washington. "Many of these things are threats that fade rather quickly and markets are trying to digest what's important or what's material or what's perhaps negotiating bluster on behalf of the administration."
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31766 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 3:57 pm to
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Back to my other point he can try and manipulate an election but he can’t lower them now which is the right thing to do

Would you please articulate exactly why it would be “the right thing to do”?
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2927 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:10 pm to
Saw this and thought today must have been a slaughter maybe I should check. S&P500 is only down 1.6%. Why the drama?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39858 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:13 pm to
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Why the drama?


That is the norm around here it seems now
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25111 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:19 pm to
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Today was brutal in the old brokerage account


Learn to diversify.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26990 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:25 pm to
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Learn to diversify.


My retirement funds are managed by a professional.

I have a fund that I play with.
Posted by Shredded
Member since May 2025
112 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:26 pm to
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my brokerage is for 20 years from now and laughing at any down days or overreactions. I don’t need that money now so it doesn’t affect me if it goes down


Then why do you celebrate when the market rallies ?
I mean if it's all about 20 years from now then the rallies are as meaningless as the pull backs

Market Rallies: I'm up 20 percent YTD, let's roll !
Market Drops 20 percent: I don't care, my brokerage is for 20 years from now so it doesn't affect me
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9786 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:28 pm to
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Was looking okay until it wasn't and everything went south.



I only look at my accounts on days that I know the market is up!
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73292 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:29 pm to
The BBB is a rounding error for our debt problems. We could go back to 90s era tax rates on everyone and debt would still be exploding at an unsustainable rate.

I have no patience for people blaming our debt problems on revenue shortfalls.

Medicaid, Medicare, and ss are causing our debt crisis. Period.

Also, something like 90% of all bbb “spending” is just the TCJA extension.

Letting the TCJA expire without cutting out of control programs like Medicaid would be terrible
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40375 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:31 pm to
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Then why do you celebrate when the market rallies ?
I mean if it's all about 20 years from now then the rallies are as meaningless as the pull backs


lol
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
26990 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 4:33 pm to
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Saw this and thought today must have been a slaughter maybe I should check. S&P500 is only down 1.6%. Why the drama?


I wasn't talking about anyone's account but mine...
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19307 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 5:04 pm to
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Medicaid, Medicare, and ss are causing our debt crisis. Period.


Disagree.

2019 total federal spend ($4.5T) plus increases since in these programs (@$800B) puts us at $5.3T. Total receipts in 2024 will be about $5T.

What’s killing us us all of the increases in other programs PLUS a $400B increase in debt service.

We could cut spending to 2019 levels and still fund these programs at a much smaller deficit. Then cut rates to offset the impact and refinance debt. Viola… we’re in the path.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30791 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 5:21 pm to
It is the BBB. But there's hope on the horizon as that lethal package is starting to flounder as spending hawks in the far right of the party actually are showing backbone and real fiscal responsibility, but using the wrong approach.

The death knell of America's economy will ring out the Dies Irae if the bill passes in its current configuration, with the renewed Trump tax cuts plus today's level of spending (or even increases in spending per provisions in the bill).
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
18816 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 5:39 pm to
I’m down 1.2% on the day.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 5:40 pm
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32511 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 5:40 pm to
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tarzana


quote:

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