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re: Nebius - NBIS - AI Infrastructure Company

Posted on 10/3/26 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 4:49 pm to
Google Changing it's playbook

Essentially, Google is changing it's model of giving away infrastructure in order to get people hooked on the Google ecosystem.

quote:

Datacenters are running on absolute 100% limit. If even Google as the the absolute king of infrastructure, has to throttle paying users and do a fallback to smaller models, there are just zero free compute reserves left.

Inference costs are breaking the old internet economy. A normal search query costs fractions of a cent. But AI reasoning and deep research burn so much GPU and power that even a giant like Google simply cannot afford to give it away for free anymore.

Subsidizing is over. They are switching from "grab market share at all costs" to the hard reality of infrastructure bottlenecks.


Demand is still bullish and not even Google is going to ride it out.
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 4:50 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26480 posts
Posted on 10/4/26 at 7:48 am to
I’ve been wondering how Google does it. EVERY search is AI assisted and prompts further usage with the question at the bottom.
Posted by HYDRebs
Florida
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/5/26 at 9:00 am to
Thought this was pretty interesting and relevant to NBIS.

who-is-buying-and-selling-gpu-compute

Only 9.8% of Ramp's SaaS customers bought GPU compute over the last year, but the amount spent on GPU compute was already almost 80% of what was spent on AI applications.

Basically a relatively small number of companies are spending a shite ton on compute right now.

They also track Nebius in the neocloud category. NBIS is only at 8% based on number of customers, but I don't think that tells you much considering Ramp is counting customers and not dollars. Nebius so far has gone after fewer massive contracts vs a bunch of smaller users.

Probably the more interesting part for NBIS is the warning in the article. There are a ton of these neocloud companies popping up and building capacity. If demand keeps growing they can all probably make a lot of money. If GPU supply catches up and pricing gets crushed, obviously that's a different story.

Still think the biggest thing to watch with NBIS is what they are getting per MW on these new contracts and if they can continue filling the capacity as fast as they build it.

Pretty good independent data point for the bull case IMO.
This post was edited on 10/5/26 at 9:13 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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26480 posts
Posted on 10/5/26 at 10:29 am to
I had to jump into a couple of calls. Nothing crazy.
11/20 $290 and $300 (1 each)
May hold a few days

Feb 2027 $360 (2)
May hold a few weeks
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28563 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 7:19 am to
Interesting read, but the future of NBIS may lie with there software offerings seperate from their bare metal. Partner owned infrastructure could lower the capex risk for NBIS while giving partners control over their own GPUs.

NBIS Partner Owned Infrastructure

This is why the software matters as much as the bare metal. If NBIS can make more profit without the capex risk of having to build a data center, they will mitigate the biggest downside of the the neocloud business model.
This post was edited on 10/6/26 at 7:24 am
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28563 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 8:31 am to
NBIS is creating an AI ecosystem that is software driven. The future will not be constrained by power or water, as that will be the client's responsibility. That could significantly increase their revenue stream beyond the contracted MWs.
Posted by jerryc436
Franklin
Member since Jan 2014
750 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 1:15 pm to
Thanks BB88 on the call recommendation. Bought 2 300 Nov calls and 1 360 Feb calls yesterday. Sold the 2 Nov calls today for 49% profit and holding the Feb call because it is only up 33%. Looking for a 50%+ profit on it.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17618 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 3:31 pm to
B, looking for your thoughts on medical AI?
ive seen Cunha discussing some on twitter.
have you dug into that?
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26480 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 3:45 pm to
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B, looking for your thoughts on medical AI? ive seen Cunha discussing some on twitter. have you dug into that?
You and me both. That sector got hot lately and subsequently got crushed today.

ABCL, IBRX, and ABSI are big names there. But TEM is probably the most well known (has ai in the title).

I’m in BLLN. My only pharma play right now. Also had got hit hard today. I averaged down. Not a huge position. Just 50 shares.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26480 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Thanks BB88 on the call recommendation. Bought 2 300 Nov calls and 1 360 Feb calls yesterday. Sold the 2 Nov calls today for 49% profit and holding the Feb call because it is only up 33%. Looking for a 50%+ profit on it.
I’m glad I didn’t get shaken out.
Only sold one of four today too!
A quick 27% to secure some gains.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26480 posts
Posted on 10/6/26 at 8:19 pm to
This is how is see it.
I don’t think we meaningfully break through $280 before earnings so I’m selling calls on one more rip.

After earnings, could be $300+
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Posted by Sabans straw hat
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 10/6/26 at 8:32 pm to
You still in GRAB? Sorry to post different topic
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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26480 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 5:40 am to
Yes. I meant to update the thread.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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Posted on 10/7/26 at 6:50 am to
Dip and rip to $260 would be nice.
I wonder what the short float is right now.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26480 posts
Posted on 10/7/26 at 9:54 am to
Never a dull moment.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
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26480 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 5:20 am to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26480 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 6:08 pm to
Sold all calls before it got too bad. 230s
Bought NBIL end of day when NBIS was $219.

Tough arse market.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
23142 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 6:29 pm to
The dueling narratives are wild -

"We ran the cycle and discovered that we were pricing too low. We are now pricing ... dynamically based on an algorithms" ... auctions. (Boroditsky)

"Texas halts data center connections amid concerns about "ghost" demand" (Reuters)

"Rothschild & Co. analyst Alex Haissl argues that AI compute pricing may be artificially elevated by heavily funded AI startups willing to sign expensive compute contracts."

IMO - NBIS has a pretty good track record of candor/accuracy in its communications with the market.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
36758 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Thanks BB88 on the call recommendation. Bought 2 300 Nov calls and 1 360 Feb calls yesterday. Sold the 2 Nov calls today for 49% profit and holding the Feb call because it is only up 33%. Looking for a 50%+ profit on it.


So tell me how this works. What's the minimum, do you have to buy in full shares?

Explain it to me like I'm a small child, or a golden retreiver.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
26480 posts
Posted on 10/8/26 at 8:09 pm to
One call option contract gives you the right to buy 100 shares at the strike prices available to you in the options chain by the dates offered by the Chicago board of options. Or something like that…

Options traditionally expire on the third Friday of every month, but frequency has increased.

Nebius has some expiring tomorrow.

Would you like to reserve your chance to buy 100 shares of NBIS tomorrow at $300 a share?
Since it’s trading around $220, probably not. As a result, those $300 strikes are essentially worthless.

While they’re were going for $25 to 30 per contract earlier in the week, today one went for $3…a total lottery ticket because tomorrow they go to $0 for good.

Any of that make sense?
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