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re: How to convince someone to enjoy more of their retirement money?

Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3356 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:23 pm to
I'm working on convincing my mother to spend her's. Finally got her to buy a home (she's intended to relocate for past 2 years since retiring). I just try to show her in different ways how much excess she has. Hopefully, she will start being a bit less frugal.

I really need to follow my own advice and lead by example. Been living on pension only since early retiring 4 yrs ago. Realizing tax optimization isnt doing me any good if I dont spend my $.
Posted by BCvol
Member since Jan 2022
739 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:37 pm to
Take them on an extralong vacation exploring the world. Hit all the exotic out of the way places you can.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
23044 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:44 pm to
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Why do yall value Chinese TVs and a tracking device in your pocket over a cohesive polite functioning society? Old people had it way better than we do

ETA: most of the materialist argument boils down to air conditioning and iphones. People didn’t need air conditioning because they weren’t fat and weak

If you went back in time and showed a boomer in the 70s your iPhone and told him you have an app that would call a stranger to come pick you up when you were drunk the boomer would laugh at you and say that drunk driving is legal why would you need that

Life was better then it’s stupid to argue about it

Yeah, it’s too bad there’s a gun to everyone’s head today forcing us to have iPhones, central air, cars that routinely last 200,000 miles, and medical care that would look like science fiction to someone 50 years ago.

We’d obviously be much better off back in the days of the “polite, functioning society,” when violent crime was about twice what it is today, American children in pockets of the country literally suffered from lack of food—not today’s version of “starvation” that somehow coexists with obesity—and political violence and social unrest that make today's look like a rambunctious recess.

There are things about American society 50 years ago that were better and worth recovering. But pretending progress since then amounts to “air conditioning and iPhones” requires a truly heroic level of selective memory or outright ignorance of what life was like in the 60's, 70's and 80's.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40315 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 5:02 pm to
Racecars, trips where there are awesome ziplines, philanthropy.
Posted by Penn
Jax Beach
Member since Jan 2008
23711 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 6:31 pm to
Book
Die with zero
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19819 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 6:53 pm to
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Racecars, trips where there are awesome ziplines, philanthropy.


My Dad and mom were very frugal for a long time. My dad retired from BP and took a package around 55. That was 9 years ago and he stayed retired for 6 months and has been consulting ever since working just as much or more than when he was overseas.

Realized all his money was wrapped up in retirement accounts so figured he would work a few more years. Turns out he just likes working so thinks he will work a few more years but at least he’s enjoying his money now and I don’t think he will have a problem spending money in retirement.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40315 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:29 pm to
I understand that.

I still work bc I'm good at it, and I like it.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19819 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:25 pm to
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I understand that. I still work bc I'm good at it, and I like it.


He works 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off and is making a shite ton of money for working 26 weeks a year.

He’s 64 and still roping the two weeks he’s home. He may never retire because he has horses and places to ride where he’s at in Texas while working.


He’s got an old 99 f-250 farm truck that my brother and I are about to steal from him

He’s one of those I’m going to do something with it kinda guys.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 8:29 pm
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
40315 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:29 pm to
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64


Same.


I just go in a few hours a week.

He's in good health, snd I hope your mom is too.

Only thing I'd say to him is to place a high value on his time with her and his kids.

Time is way more valuable than money.


This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19819 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:45 pm to
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I just go in a few hours a week. He's in good health, snd I hope your mom is too. Only thing I'd say to him is to place a high value on his time with her and his kids. Time is way more valuable than money.


I see them more now than I ever have the last 24 years. I’m the oldest and moved off, siblings stayed around. Missed out on a lot over the last 22 years but moved back to make up for it. I’m the closest now.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24460 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:11 am to
Part of enjoying retirement for some people is financial independence and the lack of stress it brings. Especially for those that grew up poor and stressed.

It’s a tough habit to break to stop being cheap. I say that from experience.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60119 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:48 am to
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Book
Die with zero

It’s ironic that a hedge fund manager would write a book called die with zero for the plebs to buy and follow


There was this golden time in America from the end of ww2 to the Great Recession where life was getting better for every American and since then it has been nothing but an upwards transfer of wealth. I guarantee you the people at the top aren’t trying to “die with zero”

Some of you in yalls lifetime will watch how much more your descendants will struggle largely due to idiotic money policies and societal policies created by the government. It’s a shame George bush couldn’t have been president for life
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 7:49 am
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
12383 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:11 am to
Tell them to go out and eat a lot.

I have been retired 3.5 years, never turned on the oven.

They can spend a lot, but it is only a small amount per day.

pretty easy to figure out that they cannot spend enough doing that to use up all their money
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141120 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:33 am to
I have been thinking about this myself, as I'm going to be retiring in less than a year. I'm pretty confident I have enough money to live out my life comfortably, but it will be different without a paycheck.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33786 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:51 am to
recently convinced my parents to take a Viking cruise in Europe and within a week they had booked it. Told them I dont want their money and to spend it and enjoy life
Posted by Houstiger
Houston
Member since Aug 2007
556 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:20 am to
Some people value the future of their kids and grandkids more than material possessions.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22327 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:27 am to
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I guarantee you the people at the top aren’t trying to “die with zero”



It is mostly a waste if they are focused on giving money to their kids. 70% of inherited wealth is lost within the first generation. 90% of inherited wealth is completely lost within 2 generations.

If parents are really concerned with the wellbeing of their children, the focus should be on helping the kids understand how to navigate the waters they are swimming in which includes how to make money, save money and spend less money. That is something that transitions to kids and future generations of descendants much better than money/wealth.
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2756 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:36 am to
I mean you could manage the tax deferred part. You have 10 years after death to just let it sit… not sure you age but could then start withdrawing.

If you’re not retired by that 10 years, take $20k out yearly and find you and hers Roth IRA. With modest 7% Gaines, in 8-10,’more years that $200k total you took out (which was taxed) will grow back to at least that $200k- which will be tax free
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