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Capital Gains Tax, any chance of going away ?

Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:03 am
Posted by lgtiger
LA
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Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:03 am
MAGA
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23407 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:40 am to
we can only hope
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31726 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:52 am to
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2920 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:01 am to
LTCG is already taxed at zero for taxpayers in 10 or 12% bracket plus standard deduction. That's nearly $130k MFJ before LTCG is charged. Seems fairly generous if you ask me. (It works out great for early retirees like myself)

If that doesnt apply to you, heirs get stepped up basis at death.

I get we want to encourage long term investment but it seems unfair to tax earned income at higher rate than passive investing income or even savings interest. Not to mention, I worked for the capital to invest and was already taxed once so why do I pay capital gains tax but my heirs that did nothing would get stepped up basis?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:04 am to
Lol. No.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20802 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:27 am to
Going away so it will then be taxed as ordinary income? Why would you want that?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31726 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Going away so it will then be taxed as ordinary income? Why would you want that?

I'm pretty sure they mean "capital gains wouldn't be taxed at all", which apart from being comical, would be roughly the most anti-blue collar republican base worker tax policy move imaginable.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
900 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:38 pm to
Just think: If there were no long term capital gains taxes, there would be no real need for an IRA or an HSA. People could use one pool of investments to finance their kids college, weddings, their own healthcare needs, and their retirement, and maybe, their own unemployment insurance. If the expenses for those things could be deducted from any capital gains taxes due, well, people just might start taking more responsibility for their own well being.....not really the kind of things the Government likes to encourage.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58517 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 2:05 pm to
I hope Trump doubles it

Trump is blue collar like me and made all his money being a landlord which is the hardest job. Rental income should be tax free. Collecting money from stocks isn’t real work
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8174 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 12:08 pm to
Was thinking about end of year moves and capital gains... do we think there will be any changes to the rates with Trump coming into office?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30956 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 5:35 pm to
Not unless income tax goes away. And this is coming from someone who's capital gains are becoming equal to or more than my earned income. I don't think they should be progressive based on earned income either. All income should be taxed the same and much lower than current rates. No deductions and a tax increase on one is a tax increase on all.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
136251 posts
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:45 pm to
Terrible idea
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
82099 posts
Posted on 12/14/24 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Capital Gains Tax
disgusting

Do you get a rebate if your stock loses money?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46742 posts
Posted on 12/14/24 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Do you get a rebate if your stock loses money?
yes
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31726 posts
Posted on 12/14/24 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

disgusting

Do you get a rebate if your stock loses money?

I'm trying to figure out whether you're being sarcastic
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16615 posts
Posted on 12/14/24 at 11:54 pm to
Just be happy it is not going on unrealized capital gains.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57977 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Just be happy it is not going on unrealized capital gains.


That would take another Amendment as wealth growth is not considered income until it's realized. Also, there's no way Wall Street would donate to anyone voting for such an Amendment.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40252 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

That would take another Amendment as wealth growth is not considered income until it's realized


NSOs would like to have a word with you…
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:21 am to
quote:

NSOs would like to have a word with you…


Agreed, but that is stock given as compensation and that difference apparently matters to the IRS. SCOTUS should have ruled more widely on Wisconsin Central Ltd (no idea if there are other SCOTUS cases which further underscore that difference or if that case and Chevron could be used to strike down that whole category).
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
16615 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 4:04 pm to
Kamala Harris thought taxing unrealized capital gains was a good idea.
Even most of the democrats knew this was a crazy idea and took the attitude that this proposal had no chance of becoming a reality. If that is the case, then why was Harris advocating for it to begin with? It is off the wall stuff like that that caused her campaign to be a farce.
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