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Buffet discloses buying 9.8 million shares of AAPL

Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:41 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24703 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:41 am
1.1 billion dollar investment at time of purchase...882 million now
Warren Buffett buys stake in Apple
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This post was edited on 5/16/16 at 8:25 am
Posted by The Easter Bunny
Santa Barbara
Member since Jan 2005
45664 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:47 am to
He's already lost $200+ million on it, too. Average price he bought at was $109. Still interesting that BRK is putting money into Apple
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24703 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:23 am to
No wonder he was talking down all the negativity when it dropped below $100 and Icahn or whoever it was sold...
Posted by Louie T
Member since Dec 2006
36724 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:25 am to
Bought Apple at $90 last Thursday; can't say I'm upset by the Buffett news.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24703 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:27 am to
Yeah...nearly 2% bump in pre market.
How does it feel to buy lower than Buffet??
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:30 am to
it wasnt really warren,, it was one of his fund managers when they said that on the premarket it dropped $1. Warren himself doesnt invest in tech, when apple was $385 or so in 2013 CNBC had a special talking with him asking why he wasnt buying apple and he said he only buys what he knows and thats not tech. Regardless its nice to see BKS take a stake, but it wasn't warren himself and it was only $1B worth hardly a conviction buy or anything. Still think its a great price long term, regardless of growth, the buybacks + dividend here give you great growth for a while
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1593 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Bought Apple at $90 last Thursday; can't say I'm upset by the Buffett news.


I did the same thing on. Wish I would have bought more than i did to be honest.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 12:38 pm to
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Buffet discloses buying 9.8 million shares of AAPL by dabigfella it wasnt really warren,, it was one of his fund managers when they said that on the premarket it dropped $1. Warren himself doesnt invest in tech, when apple was $385 or so in 2013 CNBC had a special talking with him asking why he wasnt buying apple and he said he only buys what he knows and thats not tech. Regardless its nice to see BKS take a stake, but it wasn't warren himself and it was only $1B worth hardly a conviction buy or anything. Still think its a great price long term, regardless of growth, the buybacks + dividend here give you great growth for a while


I don't disagree with you, but I still gotta assume that a $1 billion buy is ran by WB briefly. Especially the way Apple has been lately, it's not like it's on a run. That guy has to be sweating bullets right now with it being down that much.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20114 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 4:06 pm to
Buffett always claimed to avoid tech stocks. Surprising.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10613 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 4:11 pm to
If Warren had a hand in it, you'll never know his entry price unless BRK bought it, and then you'd need to read the footnotes to see if he/they sold blind puts to lower their cost of entry.

He/they have done this in the past on sticks they want to own.

FTR, I have no idea who bought it. And I don't now if his "fund managers", whomever they are, bought it either.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
718 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 7:25 pm to
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I don't disagree with you, but I still gotta assume that a $1 billion buy is ran by WB briefly. Especially the way Apple has been lately, it's not like it's on a run. That guy has to be sweating bullets right now with it being down that much.

I don't think you understand how BRK is run these days. WB brought in Todd Combs and Ted Weschler to be his and Munger's eventual replacements. In the meantime, they independently manage $9 billion each. WB is not consulted, though I imagine they may go to him for input, advice, etc., on occasion. Besides, WB and Munger don't care if a position goes down after they bought it because of a) the margin of safety they seek in every investment, and b) they seek companies with stocks that are worth more than the current market price. So long as A & B are followed, they are okay with a position going down in the short term.

And to settle who bought the position, Buffett said he didn't buy it, but Combs and/or Weschler did, according to the WSJ. He said that he was not consulted about the purchase, and he has said repeatedly in the past that any smaller positions made public through filings are not his doing but that of Weschler and Combs. Sorry if the article requires a subscription.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
21223 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:29 pm to
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sold blind puts to lower their cost of entry


I think the term is "cash secured puts"
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134899 posts
Posted on 5/16/16 at 8:42 pm to
Buffett and I combined now own over 9.8 million shares of AAPL.....
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:11 am to
There are only a couple of dozen employees in Omaha and very little is bought new that Buffet isn't a part of. Many are still brought to Charlie Munger as well and he is in his 90's. I'm positive he was involved in the decision to buy Apple.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41051 posts
Posted on 5/17/16 at 9:52 am to
quote:

There are only a couple of dozen employees in Omaha and very little is bought new that Buffet isn't a part of. Many are still brought to Charlie Munger as well and he is in his 90's. I'm positive he was involved in the decision to buy Apple.


If you read his annual letters, you would know that the two investment managers have pretty much total control over their portfolios - especially when it comes to non-control stock investments like this. The portfolio companies can pretty much pick up bolt on acquisitions whenever they want and only need to run it by Omaha if they need a cash infusion to make it happen.

Now major control acquisitions, especially when they do not have a presence in that industry, are certainly approved Warren and Charlie.

But it's very clear that not only does Berkshire maintain their famously decentralized structure, but the two guys at the top are increasingly preparing for their departure by turning over responsibility. It was clearly meant for the two investment managers to essentially take their places down the road.
Posted by HYDRebs
Houston
Member since Sep 2014
1593 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:11 am to
Apple up over 7% since I bought shares 10 days ago. Any insight on where the position will run the next month or so.

Thinking strongly about taking my profits here and invest in something else that has been beaten up recently.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7383 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:15 am to
I think the run up will continue until the iphone 7 comes out.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24206 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:58 am to
quote:

If you read his annual letters, you would know that the two investment managers have pretty much total control over their portfolios - especially when it comes to non-control stock investments like this. The portfolio companies can pretty much pick up bolt on acquisitions whenever they want and only need to run it by Omaha if they need a cash infusion to make it happen.

Now major control acquisitions, especially when they do not have a presence in that industry, are certainly approved Warren and Charlie.

But it's very clear that not only does Berkshire maintain their famously decentralized structure, but the two guys at the top are increasingly preparing for their departure by turning over responsibility. It was clearly meant for the two investment managers to essentially take their places down the road.


So you honestly don't think that Warren Buffet had any idea this was going to happen? Because I call bull on that. I'm not saying it was his idea, I'm not saying he was in charge, I'm not saying he even liked the idea. But I don't think for one second that he had no idea and I don't think he hated the idea.

Therefore, others are saying he wasn't involved and I'm saying that logically he was involved nonchalantly at least.

Therefore, while it may not have the full fledged involvement of Buffet him giving it a pass IMO is still worth a lot. A REAL LOT.
Posted by Omada
Member since Jun 2015
718 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:23 am to
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baldona

Step 1: read my post.
Step 2: read the Wall Street Journal article in my post.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: stop making the argument that Buffett was consulted.
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