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re: You knew the Joe Alleva apology was coming......

Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:43 am to
Posted by St George Louisiana
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2013
10 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:43 am to
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Have you seen the massive protrusion coming from the south endzone? It's called a new upper deck....



And traffic and parking next year will be even worse than it is this year.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:44 am to
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He was also saying, we are sorry for the traffic problems, but will some of you dumb fricks try carpooling and leaving early.

Or learn about some goddamn shortcuts. You don't HAVE to jump onto Highland road and ride it out for 6 hours. There are other roads.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:45 am to
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And traffic and parking next year will be even worse than it is this year.

Because there will be 7K or so more people in the stadium (sometimes)? Do you really think that will impact parking, traffic and the amount of people on campus that badly?
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3049 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:48 am to
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would assume the group would recommend procedures, and the group would be back to review to see if those recommendations have been implemented.


That is a reasonable assumption. But I feel like if that were the case, he would have said so. If you're trying to calm people down, you might want to mention that there is a plan and details of the plan will be released in the coming weeks ahead of the A&M game. He didn't say that.That leads me to believe he's either a poor writer or there is no such plan.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:50 am to
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Before the football season, the Athletic Department contracted with a gameday traffic consulting group to evaluate our current traffic plan. The group was on site this past weekend for the Florida game, and it will again review our operations during the Texas A&M game next month.


I wonder what exorbitant sum this cost and if LSU can request a refund? Clearly the consultants have not improved the traffic situation at all. In fact, it appears to have gotten worse by all accounts.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175877 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:52 am to
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We’ve noticed that a large volume of fans who sit on the West Side of the stadium have been attempting to enter at the Southwest corner (Gates 1, 2 and 3), causing delays in getting through the gates. Please be aware that Gates 4, 5 and 6 at the Northwest corner may also be used for entering the stadium. Utilizing all six of our gates on the West Side and arriving at the gates as early as possible will help to expedite your entry into the stadium.

Lol at the stupid people that sit on the West side. Instead of bitching why don't you read your ticket and see that you can go in another gate.
Posted by ct4lsu
BR
Member since Jan 2008
1208 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 10:56 am to
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And maybe, just maybe, Joe Alleva should leave his suite, drive his own car to the game, park in a free lot, walk to the stadium, wait in line, and sit in regular seats with regular concessions. Could probably save hundreds of thousands by actually getting involved, but I'm willing to bet it would never happen.


Funny thing is, I was sitting on river road for over an hour when Alleva came driving by with a police escort parting traffic.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20618 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:02 am to
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Or learn about some goddamn shortcuts. You don't HAVE to jump onto Highland road and ride it out for 6 hours. There are other roads.
hey, Joe. (you obviously work in the Athletics office in some capacity)

Yes, there are some shortcuts. But, it doesn't take many folks to screw up a shortcut once it is used. You have to plan for major inroads and outroads to be planned, overseen, and utilized for massive events like this. Relying on people to 'go find a shortcut' is occupationally lazy and sorely lacking a sense of accountability.

Alleva's blurb about continuing to just monitor the situation through the A&M weekend is ridiculous. They have overhead images, they have reports from officials/fans, etc. They need to make some freaking adjustments. Sounds like one is just to instruct the dumbass BRPD cops to actually *monitor* a parking lot's capacity instead of just turning away people at a predetermined time.

And once those people are turned away, you better have a route for them to go.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31833 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:04 am to
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Before the football season, the Athletic Department contracted with a gameday traffic consulting group to evaluate our current traffic plan. The group was on site this past weekend for the Florida game, and it will again review our operations during the Texas A&M game next month. Although our athletic staff and local law enforcement work diligently to create the best procedures for gameday traffic, it is smart to get a fresh perspective on our operations. We hope to gain insight from the consulting group into improving our traffic plan.

translation: oops

quote:

We rely heavily upon our local law enforcement officials to create a smooth flow of traffic both before and after the game, and we plan to reiterate to them how critical their cooperation is in moving thousands of vehicles on and off campus.

translation: i blame the cops

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Finally, please consider carpooling to Tiger Stadium on game day, as that can greatly reduce the number of vehicles on campus, and please try to arrive on campus as early as possible to alleviate traffic concerns.

translation: if it isnt the cops fault then its the fans


my translation: Alleva has been and always will be in over his head.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:05 am to
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I wonder what exorbitant sum this cost and if LSU can request a refund? Clearly the consultants have not improved the traffic situation at all. In fact, it appears to have gotten worse by all accounts.




They just started the study. We probably need to let them finish before asking for a refund.

Be honest----you wanted the Chief fired before the Florida game, didn't you.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:09 am to
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hey, Joe. (you obviously work in the Athletics office in some capacity)

You're hilarious. I don't work for the AD but I also understand how the current administration has the department stronger financially and in terms of across the board success than it literally ever has been. Logistical problems with moving 100K+ into a small area using archaic road systems? NO frickING WAY!? FIRE EVERYONE!

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Yes, there are some shortcuts. But, it doesn't take many folks to screw up a shortcut once it is used. You have to plan for major inroads and outroads to be planned, overseen, and utilized for massive events like this. Relying on people to 'go find a shortcut' is occupationally lazy and sorely lacking a sense of accountability.

No shite, dude. I'm not saying LSU should "rely" on people using shortcuts. I'm just saying that there are plenty of them to be had and fans should know this and utitilize them when given the opportunity. It probably won't remedy the overall problem, but on a small scale it helps.

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Alleva's blurb about continuing to just monitor the situation through the A&M weekend is ridiculous.They need to make some freaking adjustments

Such as? Oh, you answered that question. The cops need to do their fricking jobs. The roads and infrastructure we have are there and there is nothing they can do in terms of road work that won't make the problem worse in the interim. Imagine the bitching if that happened. Should we halt all campus improvements and construction and the South Upper deck construction? That would help.
This post was edited on 10/16/13 at 11:12 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:10 am to
Sad that Joe had to write this. If you have trouble finding a spot and getting to the game on time, you left the house too late. It's not the rest of the world's job to make sure your Saturday is convenient.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17664 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:11 am to
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Alleva's blurb about continuing to just monitor the situation through the A&M weekend is ridiculous.
It would be ridiculous if that's what it meant.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96876 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:11 am to
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Insure =/= Ensure


and that's not the only error. maybe next time have someone proofread.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:13 am to
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They just started the study. We probably need to let them finish before asking for a refund.



Do you know what the study entails? Do you know when the consultants are supposed to make recommendations on implementing the traffic plan? Seems to me that if this has been going on all season they should have made some headway into alleviating (not a play on words) some of the traffic problems. Obviously if they hired a traffic consultant before this season this was a known problem.

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Be honest----you wanted the Chief fired before the Florida game, didn't you.


What in the hell are you blathering on about? What does this stupid question have to do with the price of tea in China? Nothing. Go die in a fire.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:15 am to
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my translation: Alleva has been and always will be in over his head.

Posted by BTigerFan
Zephyr Cove, NV
Member since Dec 2004
458 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:17 am to
I really wish this game day experience crap would just go away, so we can get back to the real important bitching...

Miles is an idiot

Miles has taken over the offense, defense, special teams (whatever one is having an off day)

Miles promoted Malveto, so he makes lots of mistakes

Miles has lost control of ___________

Fire Chavis, game has passed him by

Fire Stud, OL sucks

Fire Ensminger, he sucks

Fire Raymond, he sucks

Fire Moffitt, team is soft

Fire Cameron (soon as the offense has an off-game, you can bet this one will be coming)

Fire Ausbury - schedule sucks (of course, same people bitching about the schedule would be calling for heads if we scheduled all 9 remaining top 10 teams at home and lost one by 3 points)

Fire ___________ (know I am missing someone)

Sit _______, he sucks
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
25773 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:19 am to
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Athletic Department contracted with a gameday traffic consulting group

Dear Joe,

Did you consult with another firm out of New York? Or did you just go with the same group that gave us this absurdity?

Posted by silstang23
Bossier City, LA
Member since Oct 2007
4961 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:21 am to
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And traffic and parking next year will be even worse than it is this year.


Maybe not. Have you seen the home schedule?
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
36718 posts
Posted on 10/16/13 at 11:22 am to
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The roads and infrastructure we have are there and there is nothing they can do in terms of road work that won't make the problem worse in the interim.


and Alleva seems totally incapable of thinking out of the box....

there should be CATS buses running up and down River Road and down Skip Bertman to a dropoff point every 10 minutes from downtown and Farr Park...

a traffic map and times should be posted on the Internet and released to the media for publication in print NLT Thursday morning to give people time to plan...

contraflow lanes should give priority to High Occupancy Vehicles...HOV3 should be the entry point...

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