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oleheat
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Can Kim Jong Un sing better than William Hung?


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higgins
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
There's been way too much frustration and angst with the fan base over offensive performance/qb play this decade. The next HC at LSU will be a dynamic offensive mind. The boosters will demand it. Guys like Aranda and Venables would be decent hires, but they won't move the needle.
That's my opinion, anyway.


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TigerLunatik
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
So, you want me to give him a bunch of respect for correcting his own frick up? LSU is an elite level job and deserves elite level coaching. When/if he starts being a proactive coach and avoids those situations I will give him all of the respect in the world. I have no problem pointing out when he does something well and have on this board today in fact. But give him respect overall as a quality head football coach? No, he hasn't earned that yet and I'm in no way saying he can't get there.


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thanksjhester
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Fresh topic there slick


oleheat
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Christ. Anyone else excited about the actual season, rather than the psychosis of the off-season?


RB10
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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And, OF COURSE, you're not going to give him the same respect for keeping a grip and pulse on the team and bouncing back amzingly. Unlike one of those "other" bigger and better Coaches with flare.....like Jimbo and the way he lost touch of his team last year.
Sure, Son, give a lesson on respect.


A single 9 win season is now enough to earn respect? Our last coach averaged more wins than that per season over 11 years and was routinely disrespected by the same contingent of fans who've started licking Orgeron's boot.

Things sure have changed within this fan base now that we have a good ol Louisiana baw as head coach.
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Yes


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TigerLunatik
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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Anyone else excited about the actual season

I'm anxious, but just can't get excited with what I've seen so far. I'm anxious to see if Coach Orgeron can make look like a huge dumbass and if he does I will come back here and kiss the asses of guys like Bayou. It will be one of the happiest days I've had in a long, long time.


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oleheat
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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A single 9 win season is now enough to earn respect?


You talking historically speaking, or should we continue to pretend LSU Football started in the year 2000?


TigerLunatik
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Why not build on what LSU has going since 2000 and not hire coaches that aren't qualified to take us back to championship level? Why would anyone want to think about what the expectations were before that? The expectations are rightfully much, much hire now.


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RB10
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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You talking historically speaking, or should we continue to pretend LSU Football started in the year 2000?


Nah bro. Let's judge Edward like he's coaching 10 game seasons and not 13+.

GENIUS!!


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BayouBengal99
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
No dumbass, this contingent of fans you speak of just want to give the man a chance. This team was full of roster holes when he took over and that's plainly obvious.

Personally I want to see what he can do with a team of strength, like what Miles HAD when he started off with this team. There wasn't one single position that didn't have quality depth and I'm not talking 5*s all over the place, bc he didn't have that. He had 5*s in spots with solid depth players to fill in the gaps.

He also had an OL and DL full of quality depth. Some were actually transfers and JUCO players, sound familiar? Something that we are finally getting back to.

We lost to Troy for the simply fact that we didn't have that depth and there's no way in hell you can put that blame on the new HC. It's foolish and just plain ignorant to do so. If and when he fails with a roster of strength, I 110% know for a fact that this entire fanbase will turn including myself, rightfully so.

Until then I'll give the man the benefit of doubt. It has nothing to do with where he's from or how he speaks. Absolutely nothing and to keep saying these moronic ignorant things just shows exactly who you are. GO TIGERS!


RB10
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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We lost to Troy for the simply fact that we didn't have that depth and there's no way in hell you can put that blame on the new HC


I made it to here and then, literally, laughed out loud. Nothing you ever post can be taken seriously now.

Thanks for the sig quote by the way.


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TigerLunatik
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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We lost to Troy for the simply fact that we didn't have that depth and there's no way in hell you can put that blame on the new HC. It's foolish and just plain ignorant to do so. If and when he fails with a roster of strength

LSU had the 6th most talented team in the country last year.
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Troy is on the list as well, but you will have to scroll down to 116.
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This team was full of roster holes when he took over and that's plainly obvious. 

The team wasn't as full of holes as you would like it to be to fit that narrative.


SammyTiger
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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Our next head coach will be, and should be, a proven winner as a HC.


It’s harder to pull those guys.


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Laman1978
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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This is a question that I've been wanting to ask the forum for while now.
Did you personally just have to ask it? Why couldn't you just search for the other thousand times a thread has been started featuring this exact question?


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RB10
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TigerLunatik


Don't you dare bring facts and shite into this argument.


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whitefoot
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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We lost to Troy for the simply fact that we didn't have that depth

Lack of depth isn't why we lost to Troy. That's silly. Our backups were better than most of their starters. But they played as a team and were well coached. We had no leadership at that point in the season and team chemistry (coaching staff included) was a mess, by all accounts.

I was glad, and somewhat impressed by how the team came together after the Troy game, so Orgeron gets credit for not letting the season completely fall apart, but he has to bear responsibility for those early season stumbles (losing to Troy, and the way we lost to Mississippi State).


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Tiger0610
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
They’ve done that one fricking time. While it makes it more often I guess (and certainly more recent) thankfully it’s not a pattern


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boxcar willie
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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The team wasn't as full of holes as you would like it to be to fit that narrative.


of course the team wasn't "full' of holes but it did have big holes in the DL and OL lines combined with an over complicated offense for that group of athletes that early in the season. Was it coach Canadas fault that his offense was to complicated for SEC type athletes? Not really but he could have made adjustments to it to adapt it to the learning curve of football recruits from the south eastern portion (particularly Louisiana/Mississippi) of the USA intelligence appititudes. These players need time to absorb the system and can't have to much thrown at them to quickly in order for it to run smoothly.


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