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boxcar willie
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
my question for the op would be: does Aranda have the personality makeup to lead a team as a HC? Sure he can coordinate a defense but what about everything else that a HC actually does do?


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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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of course the team wasn't "full' of holes but it did have big holes in the DL and OL lines combined with an over complicated offense for that group of athletes that early in the season. Was it coach Canadas fault that his offense was to complicated for SEC type athletes? Not really but he could have made adjustments to it to adapt it to the learning curve of football recruits from the south eastern portion (particularly Louisiana/Mississippi) of the USA intelligence appititudes. These players need time to absorb the system and can't have to much thrown at them to quickly in order for it to run smoothly.


Blaming the loss on the OC when the head coach admitted to forcing him to make changes that didn't suit his offense.

That's brilliant.


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TigerLunatik
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Ok, we can go that route. Did Orgeron not know his roster and their "limitations" as you put it when he hired Canada? I would hope that Orgeron knew what kind of offense he was going to run and I would assume that he would know what kind of personnel it would take to run it. It seems to me that would have been a big taking point in the interview.


TheDeathValley
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Armada but I would think he would need to prove himself first


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SammyTiger
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
He has been pretty solid in living rooms Phillips, Queen, Taylor Baskerville have all been solid pulls.

His players tend to love him. One player at Wisconsin literally said he would take a upper for him... after he came to LSU

He’s different but I dont See it as bad.


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Spec1
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Ronald McDonald would be a better head coach than O.


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ranger350
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
why don't you just wait and see how the season plays out. you might just be happy instead of doom and gloom!


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JohnnyU
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Who knows? It doesn't matter because he won't get the gig if O bombs out.

Aranda is a obviously a talented DC but who knows if he has the skills to be a head coach. It's a different skill set. He doesn't come from a great coaching tree so he hasn't been at a P5 program that's won a championship while he was there.
A head coach wears many different hats.



rbdallas
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
So you have been waiting all of this time to post a negative comment ? a little passive aggressive ??

BTW just because someone is a good Coordinator does not / will not guarantee him to be a good HC.
These days an HC is more of a CEO in a corp.

Until they have BEEN IN THE POSITION it for a while, no one will know. Some do not have the personality or ability to multi-task required.




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LSU20032007
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
No , Aranda wouldn't punch himself and crush red bull cans on his head


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mhc4tigers
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
No Aranda is not ready to be the head coach. Aranda destiny is an NFL DC.


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mdtiger1
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Why and How? Are you a judge of unknown things?


TigerLunatik
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
It's pretty simple really. Aranda has consistently been a very successful and highly sought after coordinator. O has never been a coordinator, has a career losing percentage and wasn't even pursued as a head coach by anyone other than Alleva. Does that mean he can't or won't be successful? Does that mean Aranda would automatically be a better head coach? Of course not. Only a fool would say differently IMO. The question was about who is more qualified for the position.


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beauxroux
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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Did Orgeron not know his roster and their "limitations" as you put it when he hired Canada?

Of course he did. Canada was hired in reaction to the long cry of fans to bring our offense into the 21st century. Canada's history shows he is a disruption to programs as evidenced by his short-term stays at every place he has coached. Apparently he interviews well. Hiring him was a mistake. Firing him was not.

Lesson: be careful listening to fans-- they are an emotional, passionate and many times irrational group.

And now back to the regular scheduled program--


Chimlim
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Yes. Aranda is a better coach than O. As if the O hire wasn't baffling enough, if we were going to promote from within, why didn't Alleva promote the best coach on the staff? We are now in a position to retain the career D-line coach and lose our best coach, hell we almost lost him already.


TigerLunatik
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
That's absolutely fair and I definitely about listening to the fans. He should run the program his way and within his vision.

My question to you would be after that mistake of a hire that was the same kind of mistake he made at Ole Miss by his own admission, what would inspire confidence in the coaching hires he's made for the upcoming season? Let's not forget the Mickey Joseph hire last year as well.


beauxroux
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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lose our best coach, hell we almost lost him already.

Stay calm, keep your eye on the ball and swing level-- lol. No need to panic. If you want the best coaches, then you better be prepared to fend off other suitors.

Not directed to you specifically, but it seems the people who complain about Alleva panicking in the coach's "search", are the same ones who panic themselves.


TigerLunatik
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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it seems the people who complain about Alleva panicking in the coach's "search", are the same ones who panic themselves.

The Rant was built for fanatics. Alleva gets paid VERY handsomely to make rational decisions that result in winning. However, I fear that he is more concerned with making money than winning. That is obviously strictly my opinion.


beauxroux
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Member since Nov 2010
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
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My question to you would be after that mistake of a hire that was the same kind of mistake he made at Ole Miss by his own admission, what would inspire confidence in the coaching hires he's made for the upcoming season? Let's not forget the Mickey Joseph hire last year as well.

Excellent question. My answer: wins inspire confidence. I was not always pleased with Saban's choices for coordinators and assistants, nor Miles' choices. However, as long as they were winning, I was good to go. I like Ensminger as coordinator-- based upon what I saw from him in that role in as interim. Yes, I am aware of Bama game. Will my "like" for Ensminger continue? Let's see what happens this year and I'll get back to you.


Magician2
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re: Would Dave Aranda be a better HC than Ed Ogeron?
Kirby has never been a HC before and look what he’s done/doing at UGA. Killing on the recruiting trail, has the entire fan base filling up seats at spring games.


Instead of comparing Aranda to Saban you should really be comparing him to Kirby. I believe they are the same age as well.


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