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re: Woodward doesn’t get enough blame for the current state of the football program
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:48 pm to Kool Kaliper
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:48 pm to Kool Kaliper
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How else was he going to get BK to leave Notre Dame?
Never should have hired him. He hired a coach who has never won the big game.
And now check our record against ranked opponents. Pretty predictable actually.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:56 pm to fightntiger32
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Exactly. Contracts should not be longer than 5 years.
Well, you're not getting Kirby. His deal was for 10.
You're not getting Day. His deal was for 7.
You're not getting Dabo. His deal was for 10.
You're not getting Lanning. His deal was for 6.
You're not getting Sark. His deal was for 7.
You're not getting DeBoer. His deal was for 8.
You're not getting Lincoln. His deal was for 10.
You could have gotten Deion. His deal was for 5. But not now.
You could have gotten Belichick. LOL.
You're not getting Norvell. His deal was for 8.
You're not getting Mike Stoops. His deal was for 9.
You could get Mike Drinkwitz. Would you want to?
You could have gotten Josh Heupel.
You couldn't have gotten Lane. His deal was for 6.
You couldn't have gotten Marcus Freeman. His deal was for 6.
You couldn't have gotten James Franklin. His deal was for 10.
You couldn't have gotten Kristobal. His deal was for 10.
Who exactly could you have gotten if you limited yourself to 5 year contracts? Bret Bielema?!?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:16 pm to tigerfan24736
He needs to be shite canned before the next football HC hire. Otherwise, he will sign James Franklin to a 10 year/$100 million + contract fully guaranteed.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:26 pm to tigerfan24736
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He has essentially made the exact same mistake twice now. First with Jimbo, now with Brian Kelly. Two of the worst coaching contracts I’ve ever seen with ridiculous buyouts. Idiot.
For the one millionith time, Woodward did not give Jimbo the ridiculous buyout.
Woodward gave Jimbo the initial 10 year $75 million deal in December 2017.
Woodward left for LSU in April 2019.
Jimbo had a successful COVID season in 2020.
Prior to the 2021 season, the Texas A&M Board of Regents voted to extend Fisher's contract through the 2031 season. Beginning January 1, 2022, Fisher would be paid $9 million annually. If he was to be fired without cause before December 1, 2021, he would have been owed $95.6 million – the largest buyout clause in college football history.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:49 pm to tigerfan24736
Who was available at the time you all would've wanted to coach at LSU? You know majority of the fans prefer a certain look.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:55 pm to BlackPot
At minimum I hope Scott is having an adult business conversation with a sense of urgency with BK
Why do I not believe that?
Why do I not believe that?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 3:10 pm to tigerfan24736
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tigerfan24736
It’s always hilarious when someone so fricking stupid doesn’t know how fricking stupid they are.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 3:23 pm to SaveFarris
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SaveFarris
How old are all those coaches?
For those defending the 10Y/$100 million contract with Kelly, where's your threshold for a decision? Your CBK exit strategy?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 3:28 pm to tigerfan24736
Football and Basketball, wouldn't you say.,
He has a hell of a legacy all ready.
He has a hell of a legacy all ready.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 3:28 pm to tigerfan24736
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He has essentially made the exact same mistake twice now. First with Jimbo, now with Brian Kelly. Two of the worst coaching contracts I’ve ever seen with ridiculous buyouts. Idiot.
Will there ever be accountability for these ADs writing blank checks? This isn’t just exclusively about LSU. Coaching contracts are so ridiculous nowadays. Surely something’s gotta give soon, especially with NIL and revenue share.
To be fair, that is how everyone is having to write contracts for Head Coaches in College Football now. Unless you're going to promote someone like Ed O then you can get away with a more favorable contract. Or if you hire an unproven Coach and give him a shot then you can have a more favorable contract.
But if you want the best which every LSU states we want the best then that is the contract that has to be given in order to get someone to accept the position. Blaming Woodward for the hire is fine, its his hire but thats the landscape of College Football now.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 3:44 pm to tigerfan24736
If Woodward had hired Brian Kelly 8 to 10 years ago, everything would have been a lot less complicated. This era of college football is not made for Kelly. It has passed him by and he can’t adapt.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 4:12 pm to tigerfan24736
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but his track record with football is atrocious.
Is it?
He has hired as football coaches Steve Sarkisian(for his first head coaching job), Chris Peterson(when people were saying he could not be lured away from Boise State, Jimbo Fisher(at the behest of the poser brokers at aTm away at a time when many here were clammering for Jimbo), and Brian Kelly.
Atrocious.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 4:47 pm to Sofaking2
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This era of college football is not made for Kelly. It has passed him by and he can’t adapt.
He's not pulling Dabo and losing to bad teams or struggling in recruiting or struggling in the transfer portal, yet.
Some of ya'll need to step away from the ledge.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 9/30/25 at 4:49 pm to tigerfan24736
Woodward should be fired for singlehandedly making an embarrassment of the basketball program.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:02 pm to JiminyCricket
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BTW, enjoy your theoretical 5 year deal coach while you have him because somebody will come along and offer the deal you won'
Meh....Most of the contracts have the clause for winning NC and making them the highest paid. Should have offered Kelly that. Since he came here to win a NC. Give him 5 years, and bait for incentive. Don't front load it like LSU did.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:15 pm to JiminyCricket
I always hated how the coaches contracts protects the coaches more than the university or results. I know it takes a lot to attract the best here but there has to be a balance. I know if LSU fired BK today many would rejoice. But who will you get to actually come here??? You won't just auto get the best running into this mess. You'll have to get a young gun and allow time for him to work out. Then people will be impatient to let this play our. It's a no win unless you find that "Saban" candidate and still people will be pissed off. ROCK LSU HARD SPOT.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:27 pm to SaveFarris
Well, you're not getting Kirby. His deal was for 10.
You're not getting Day. His deal was for 7.
You're not getting Dabo. His deal was for 10.
You're not getting Sark. His deal was for 7.
horseshite! The ones listed above either have or played for a Championship. The rest you listed, I would not want. No coach not named Saban was worth a 10-year contract at $100 million.
You're not getting Day. His deal was for 7.
You're not getting Dabo. His deal was for 10.
You're not getting Sark. His deal was for 7.
horseshite! The ones listed above either have or played for a Championship. The rest you listed, I would not want. No coach not named Saban was worth a 10-year contract at $100 million.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:29 pm to JiminyCricket
quote:10 year, $100 million fully guaranteed contracts are absurd.
Kelly's contract isn't even top ten anymore.
The risk is that some coaches will coast, knowing once the ink is dry, they'll get $100 mil. And if the AD made a mistake on a coach who just isn't what he had expected, then that's a massive financial hit.
Now sure, top tier coaches will command big dollars, but there has to be some skin in the game, with performance guarantees, or a lower salary and bigger bonuses based on performance, or a smaller buyout if performance isn't cutting it after 3 or 4 years.
But a straight $100 million contract is ridiculous, and I thought so when Kelly got it (and Jimbo too).
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