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re: Will Sloan’s playcalling improve?
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:46 pm to bayouboo
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:46 pm to bayouboo
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Why is it Sloan’s responsibility to micromanage everything happening?
Play calls come with a personnel package. Individual replacement if a guy is lagging will be a position coach or BK call if it is in the moment, call, I do agree with you on that. There will likely be discussions of how to move forward during the defensive series if it is a guy who cannot return to play.
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:47 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Remember when we would have absolutely killed to have an offense that was this good? That was really not long ago at all, and we endured that for years.
Now we have people complaining about one of the top offenses in the nation, because it isn't an all-time great offense like we witnessed twice recently.
Modern offense. Apples and oranges.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:47 pm to philly444
Our interior line gets blown up too often. I don’t know how it gets addressed mid season, but it’s an issue
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:48 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Have you missed that it was an option play? Nuss could hand it off or make a shovel pass to Zavion. Kelly is chewing him out as soon as he gets to the sideline.
Nuss made a bad read.
Nuss makes a lot of bad reads in the run game if you watch.
I remember a couple of plays when he should've run the ball.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:52 pm to philly444
I think Sloan will improve. I think he's probably a little over extended at the moment. He's new to play-calling. So he's having to figure that out as he goes. There's gonna be a bit of a learning curve until he gets comfortable. At the same time he's the QB coach, and the over extension probably shows up here as well. If Nuss is making bad decisions, then that's on the QB coach. Nuss needs to know when it's time to run, and Sloan needs to teach him that. Nuss seems to be pretty sloppy with his mechanics these days as well. He throws off that back foot way too much. This might be why he's not hitting his deep balls as well as he used to. It's Sloan's job to clean this up too.
But Sloan is learning and should be getting more comfortable calling plays. Nuss didn't have his best day; so that should get Sloan's attention to work on some things. I think Sloan is growing into it, but he's not feeling comfortable yet. I'm sure having WRs dropping like flies is not helping matters. So, yeah, I think Sloan will improve.
But Sloan is learning and should be getting more comfortable calling plays. Nuss didn't have his best day; so that should get Sloan's attention to work on some things. I think Sloan is growing into it, but he's not feeling comfortable yet. I'm sure having WRs dropping like flies is not helping matters. So, yeah, I think Sloan will improve.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:53 pm to nicholastiger
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My only gripe was on some of the 3rd and under 10 calls throughout game when all they needed was 6 yards for a first they chunking down the field
Get the first down
You have one of the best te in the country
That should be an easy call
Allot of that is decision-making on the QBs part. For whatever reason, Nuss was being greedy much more frequently than usual this past weekend. He passed up open guys multiple times for a longer throw. But, that decision also tied and won the game. I just hope he settles down and makes better decisions going forward.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 8:56 pm to philly444
The offensive play calling has been very bad at times. Especially in opponent territory.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:20 pm to MrWiseGuy
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Wasn’t it reported today that Anderson’s TD he was 3rd in the progression?
That reporting is bull shite. Give Sloan credit where due.
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BK said a lot of the play calling late in the game was based on what Nuss wanted and was comfortable with.
I’m good with that
I’m good with that
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:41 pm to bayouboo
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What is Kelly doing while Sloan is deciding what play to call? By the time the play is called, the position coaches are making substitutions. No way Sloan can scan the field, call back down to pull a player to sub another.
Sloan doesn’t call a play and personnel to be in the game.
I don’t think Sloan is micromanaging substitutions.
I do think he knows which personnel are going to be on the field when he’s making the calls. And I would assume there is at least some communication about getting specific personnel packages in place when there’s something they know they want to run.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:42 pm to philly444
Offense still lacks consistency for having so much experience and fire power
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:46 pm to Mayhawman
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The rushing scheme is lacking Power and need to start pulling OL, if they even practice that.
I’m convinced y’all don’t actually watch the plays.
For the first several weeks the majority of our rushing attempts were power and counter. It wasn’t working, but inside/outside zone were working (I should say working better; it’s all relative) so we’ve been running more zone since then.
But to say “start pulling OL, if they even practice that?” Come on man. We’ve had a heaping shitload of pulling OL this year. I would bet we had more in the first 3-4 games than we had in the last 2 years.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 9:57 pm to Pauvetibete
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Do you think the play call says who to throw the ball too?
As a matter of FACT it does.
Now. Is Nuss listening. That’s the coaches job…to get him to play within the system, and put him in a system that will benefit the team and the QB the most.
Wether or not Sloan is doing that is the question.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:01 pm to LafTiger
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Do you think the play call says who to throw the ball too?
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As a matter of FACT it does.
Yeah I thought that comment was pretty silly. Like.. yeah, actually, there are usually one or two primary targets on any given pass concept.
That’s not to say Nuss didn’t make mistakes. He certainly did. But I have little doubt that Sloan was dialing up a ton of deep shots.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 10:47 pm to philly444
The game plan was to make Nuss and the O more aggressive. This was discussed by the TV commentators after the game. The effort was 2 fold. One was to go downfield more with passes rather than short and intermediate passes. The other was to get Nuss to run. They wanted him to run about 3 times. He actually run once but had several other opportunities. That didn’t work out too well. It needs work by Nuss.
Now that he has played a game and made the mistakes it will be a lot clearer. He can make adjustments. He was already making progress as witness his play in the 4th quarter and overtime.
Evidently LSU had supplied the commentators with data on length of passes in games. LSU has records back to 2011 on this. In the Ole Miss game LSU threw more long passes than any game since LSU has been keeping the records. They took Nuss out of his comfort zone, resulting in interceptions and a low completion percentage. They probably did not expect this bad of but it’s done. Now Nuss knows his mistakes and can work on them.
This is all in further development of the offense now that LSU is in the heart of the SEC schedule. Both Nuss running the bal and the longer passes will improve the running game. The longer passes will pull defenders out of the box (safeties) out if the box and force more defenders 5 DB situations. It will reduce the 7-8 man in the box most teams use against LSU.
Now that he has played a game and made the mistakes it will be a lot clearer. He can make adjustments. He was already making progress as witness his play in the 4th quarter and overtime.
Evidently LSU had supplied the commentators with data on length of passes in games. LSU has records back to 2011 on this. In the Ole Miss game LSU threw more long passes than any game since LSU has been keeping the records. They took Nuss out of his comfort zone, resulting in interceptions and a low completion percentage. They probably did not expect this bad of but it’s done. Now Nuss knows his mistakes and can work on them.
This is all in further development of the offense now that LSU is in the heart of the SEC schedule. Both Nuss running the bal and the longer passes will improve the running game. The longer passes will pull defenders out of the box (safeties) out if the box and force more defenders 5 DB situations. It will reduce the 7-8 man in the box most teams use against LSU.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:06 pm to philly444
It's always fun to watch fans criticize playcalling.
Fans who have no concept of what looks the offense is seeing, what personnel are available and capable of, and what plays are even being called.
If you actually talked to Sloan about playcalling, you'd be overwhelmed in less than 10 seconds by the information they process.
Fans see a play work and deem it "good playcalling," a play doesn't work and it's "bad playcalling" or a "lack of creativity".
Fans are clueless.
Fans who have no concept of what looks the offense is seeing, what personnel are available and capable of, and what plays are even being called.
If you actually talked to Sloan about playcalling, you'd be overwhelmed in less than 10 seconds by the information they process.
Fans see a play work and deem it "good playcalling," a play doesn't work and it's "bad playcalling" or a "lack of creativity".
Fans are clueless.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:14 pm to philly444
It took him forever to figure out that they were taking away the outs and leaving the middle open. We're lucky it wasn't 24-0 before he figured it out
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:37 pm to philly444
I trust practically no one on this board to able to identify good vs bad playcalling.
Y’all couldn’t read a coverage to save your life but you want to bitch about the playcalling of a top 10 offense?
And I’m not trying to say I know either. I’m just not going to bitch about something I don’t understand like y’all do.
Y’all couldn’t read a coverage to save your life but you want to bitch about the playcalling of a top 10 offense?
And I’m not trying to say I know either. I’m just not going to bitch about something I don’t understand like y’all do.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:46 pm to jrodLSUke
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That reporting is bull shite. Give Sloan credit where due.
Kelly said it in his Monday presser that Anderson was the third option on that play
Posted on 10/14/24 at 11:48 pm to cbree88
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Then Caden Durham should have been the back in the game. Only excuse is if he was injured at that point and couldn’t get back in yet. The talent was not used properly. Poor play call
How was it a poor play call if the qb was the one who fricked up?
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