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re: Why I would have stuck with Ack
Posted on 6/4/24 at 12:10 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 6/4/24 at 12:10 am to Lester Earl
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That was your safest bet
In no way is a reliever a safer bet than your ace.
Agree to disagree.
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 12:12 am to LSBoosie
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Surely you understand that throwing in high leverage spots in the 7th and 8th inning is much more similar to closing, than being a year long starte
I could accept this stance if Jump comes in mid inning with runners on.
Jay leaned on his best pitcher to get 3 outs with no one on base.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:33 am to Lester Earl
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Scripts are dumb though. Hellmers throwing 5.1 wasn’t in any script. There is no better evidence to base decisions on than what is going on in the game.
Agreed. I was actually worried when they kept warming guys up while Hellmers was dominating. He looked like a guy they were never going to touch. Thankfully they kept him in there 5+. I was cool where they pulled him after the walk.
Ack struck out the side didn't he? I'm keeping that dude in until something happens. He looked to be on fire. That's not hindsight if it's my belief before the result. It's just based on the current moment of the game. I disagreed with the decision, but I'm not mad at it. Of course things could have gone south keeping him in, but we'll never know.
I'm disappointed LSU couldn't score a bit more, but it was one of those games that was going to be won off tough decisions. I have always felt like this team was one more elite bat away from an entirely different season.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 2:39 am
Posted on 6/4/24 at 3:14 am to beauchristopher
The positioning of Pearson was so bad on both hits T9. You want your LF to be able to keep the first golf shot to a single, but once the guy was on 2nd come in and make them hit it over your head to score.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 5:05 am to rpg37
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I would have stuck with Ack simply because we didn't have anything after Jump.
That's a good point. But, I would imagine as the coach you're going out there to put the foot on the throat.
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it was an all or nothing decisio
Yep. And it's difficult to second guess going to your best pitcher in that situation. It just didn't work out this time. Tip your hat to UNC.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:11 am to Lester Earl
I agree with Lester. You gotta keep him in.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:16 am to Lester Earl
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Too many 1-2 counts this year have went the wrong way.
One of the most overlooked stories all year. It is amazing how many 0-2 and 1-2 cookies we throw. That has got to change.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:20 am to Honkus
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Ack was on one tonight. You could tell he had his good stuff and had that look in his eye. Ah well
This. Our pitchers were cruising. At least let someone from UNC get a decent foul off of Ackenhouse before you pull him. Having Gage Jump ready in the pen would be awesome. Would give Nate extra confidence to go for it. Jump on 2 days rest is not the same guy.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:21 am to Lester Earl
I don’t mind the move to Jump but he was not warmed well enough. It seemed like he did not have his room stuff right away.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:26 am to burreauxxx
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Ack has given up a lot of HRs this season and they had a RH heavy lineup
So you take an LH out to put an LH in....This argument is null.
I didnt like the move when it happened. i like putting Jump in to close it out but only if Ack got into trouble in the 9th
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:30 am to DBG
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I think sticking with Ack or going to Jump are fair and reasonable decisions.
Yep
With a loss, Jay was going to catch heat from posters no matter the decision. Right now, it's how could Jay bring in Jump with Ack dealing.
If Ack stays and gives up a lead in 9th, posters would be asking how could Jay not put in Jump when he was available.
Personally, I don't like going to starters in relief, but I can't really fault Jay for going to his best arm available for 3 outs.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:33 am to Lester Earl
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Jay notoriously has trusted his guys when they’ve pitched well. Going to Jump was cute. And now you get the cop out excuse “well you had your best guy available.” I get it, but don’t love it. To me. Ack has to give you a reason to not bring him back out, and he never did.
To me, given that Ack was pitching well, he could have reasonably given you 4-5 innings even if he gave up a run. Going to Jump essentially boxed us into closing the game with him with limited relief options.
Dont hate the move, but you are running out of pitching options at that point.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:35 am to OceanMan
Ack was all over the place. He got bailed out twice.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:36 am to ell_13
Also does my memory deceive me or has ack been absolutely rocked at times this season? My mind is blown people think that’s why lsu lost.
We took a national seed to a winner take all extra innings game on the road running on fumes…and people think the coaching job was bad?
We took a national seed to a winner take all extra innings game on the road running on fumes…and people think the coaching job was bad?
Posted on 6/4/24 at 6:37 am to Lester Earl
If Ack blows the last inning then we are blaming JJ for not bringing in Jump.
Hindsight 20/20
Hindsight 20/20
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:22 am to WylieTiger
Only dumb fans would do that
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:32 am to tigerbait2010
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Also does my memory deceive me or has ack been absolutely rocked at times this season? My mind is blown people think that’s why lsu lost.
Well, the next pitcher gave up the tying and winning run in the next two innings. I don’t see too many people claiming that the pitching change is why LSU lost, but it’s not exactly unreasonable to question the decision.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:33 am to burreauxxx
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RH heavy lineup
Ok, so go with Ulloa or Guidry. Not another LHP
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:39 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I could accept this stance if Jump comes in mid inning with runners on. Jay leaned on his best pitcher to get 3 outs with no one on base.
Right, by putting him in a scenario he literally hasn’t been in all year long. I would understand it if we had basically no one left, but that’s not the case.
Posted on 6/4/24 at 7:45 am to LSBoosie
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Right, by putting him in a scenario he literally hasn’t been in all year long. I would understand it if we had basically no one left, but that’s not the case.
You’re still acting like it was some shocking sight to see a starter come in to get 3 outs?
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