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re: Who is the worst OC in LSU football history?

Posted on 7/13/24 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17542 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 6:16 pm to
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Legit answer. Had no business being an OC at this level. He was a Dinardo yes man. Dinardo thought he could turn things around all by himself.



I could listen to this argument. IMHO it's the same as the Les conundrum. A head coach that decided it was his offense and the OC was interchangeable or irrelevant.

But IMHO what really did Dinardo in was Baldwin and Kelly hated his guts for not promoting Baldwin to DC, and he kept them on staff while they did all they could to undermine him. And that's all on Dinardo.

Posted by tigerstripes
Loranger, LA
Member since Aug 2006
879 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:35 pm to
Anyone who coached under Les. What a train wreck offense.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
18907 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:38 pm to
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That Auburn game...

And he threw Jamie Howard under the bus after the game, even though a run should have been called on every down in the fourth quarter, maybe the entire second half.
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
6094 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:54 pm to
Quit defending Pootz, he was abysmal.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30418 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 7:58 pm to
Disgusting
Posted by Tiger Chemist
Member since Nov 2009
3115 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:06 pm to
The end of the Miles/Cameron era was really bad.
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
4338 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:19 pm to
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‘08 wasn’t great either, but I think they had more studs on defense.
08 was loaded on the offensive side of the ball besides QB after Perrilloux was dismissed.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41087 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:28 pm to
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Fact is, if you look back to the 2018 or 2019 LSU Media guide, Miles pretty much owned the LSU Offensive record book with 3 and 4 of his teams placing top 5 all time rushing, passing and scoring. Amazingly the D tRant always discusses, had little representation in record book.


It’s almost like college football changed dramatically to allow for more offense and less defense in the early 2000’s
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5576 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 8:40 pm to
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Gary crowton won a natty his first year as OC lol...not sure where the hate came or comes from.


Final 2 seasons:
09: Scoring- 73rd, Rushing- 90th, Passing- 97th, Total- 112nd, 3rd down- 71st

10: Scoring- 45th, Rushing- 27th, Passing- 107th, Total- 86th, 3rd down- 72nd
This post was edited on 7/13/24 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27279 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:23 pm to
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I think ‘14 was the least talented team of all Les Miles tenure. ‘08 wasn’t great either, but I think they had more studs on defense.
Thats fair to say.

‘08 was tough because our J.Lee was thrown to the wolves and clearly not ready. R.perriloux’s fault, but thats neither here nor there.
Posted by Gonadballbarian
Member since Dec 2017
1416 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:39 pm to

The one thing I liked about les Was at least he had some Balls. Fake fgs etc But yeah the rest was horrible
Posted by fightntiger32
Member since Jan 2014
616 posts
Posted on 7/13/24 at 9:44 pm to
To think there were many that wanted him to be the HC.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19926 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:23 am to
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Final 2 seasons:
09: Scoring- 73rd, Rushing- 90th, Passing- 97th, Total- 112nd, 3rd down- 71st

10: Scoring- 45th, Rushing- 27th, Passing- 107th, Total- 86th, 3rd down- 72nd


Crowton and JJ took the fall for this but this is on Les, not them.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19926 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 12:25 am to
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08 was loaded on the offensive side of the ball besides QB after Perrilloux was dismissed.


This is correct and had Perrilloux not been dismissed, the '08 offense would've been the gold std until '19.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7386 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 1:22 am to
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Bob McConnell

That was the first guy to come to my mind, but I couldn't think of his name. He was a HORRIBLE OC.
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
1643 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 6:56 am to
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Peetz and Daronte were both not horrible. That year was all down to O and his terrible recruiting


That team either tied or broke the record of draft picks in a single year. Even if they weren’t all first round picks, you had double digit pros…

Peetz couldn’t get a call to the field and basically forgot that running the football was a legal play. He was not ready to be an OC, and probably would’ve benefited from having someone like Ensminger in the booth with him.

Jones was a different case because he was essentially forced to run a 4-3 even when it clearly didn’t work. It took Kiffen telling O that the 4-3 is the easiest defense to call against for him to allow Jones to switch things up. It’s been said that Jones relied heavily on Baker to turn things around.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62318 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 7:37 am to
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quote:
Charlie Peavy



Alexander left, Alexander right, Alexander up the middle-punt.



This cheer was quite popular in the SEZ back then:

"'round the right
'round the left
up the middle
punt!"



Do y'all remember Ed Zaunbrecher? He was Mike Archer's OC and his offenses were as dull as a butter knife.
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:54 pm
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1309 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:50 am to
Gary Crowton got a lot of hate but it was unfair. It was an impossible situation having to play Lee/Jefferson as freshmen. He was very creative with the bubble screens but once 2008 happend something changed. I think he was handcuffed by Les. But to answer the question I would say Cam Cameron
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
1309 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:51 am to
Didn’t Canada and O hate each other? I wonder if things would have been different in Ed let him coach
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
168163 posts
Posted on 7/14/24 at 9:39 am to
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because fan bases of his previous teams warned us that exact thing would happen.


They said his offensive production would fall off not that he’d start running power toss out of an i-form 739 times a game.
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