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tigersnip
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When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?

Skip almost lost him because of price. He didn't have a great record or personality so what did he have ?


Strannix
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
A lot of things, he was part of taking the Browns to the playoffs
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AFTiger7
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
i would honestly like to know this as well. Saban's first year at LSU was my first year so i didn't pay attention to hiring at the time.


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lsufb1912
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
He was essentially what Mel Tucker/Dave Aranda are right now. A young HC with a lot of coaching experience (assistant/coordinator) & a great defensive mind.

I think the fact that he spent 3 years of working under Belichick at CLE was big too.
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
How much the NFL power brokers and insiders thought of him and coveted him as a NFL Head Coach. I seem to recall he was offered the Colts and and Giants job before and turned them down.

Skip had nothing to do with Saban's hire. Skip was the Baseball coach at that time not the AD. Joe Dean was the one that wanted to low ball him. Dean told Emmert that I think I can get him for 900,000 a year. Emmert told him no, you give him our best offer, and that was 1.2 million I think. At that point Dean was a lame duck AD and vertually had no real power. Emmert was the power behind the hire and even lead the interviews
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ATLTiger
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
Highly regarded football mind, detail-oriented guy. He had Michigan State on the upswing after they'd kinda faded into mediocrity under Perles.

Also had some NFL chops as an asst/ DC and NFL teams were interested in him as a HC too.


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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
He had a deep Assistant Coach NFL background and a strong pedigree as a Belicheck coaching disciple. Then takes over a down in the dumps Michigan St program and makes then very competitive during an era where only Michigan is the Big Dog in that state for decades. He saw a sleeping Tiger in LSU who could own the state recruiting as the Big Dog versus always having to compete against Michigan. No brained decision for him and LSU. Was a perfect match.


SlidellCajun
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
I recall it and it was out of the blue for me and others.

Coming from Michigan state was unusual for one. Saban was not a name we knew very well either.

Then I started listening to radio reports about him with people from Michigan weighing in and it started to sink in that we had a solid coach. At the time, I had some connections at LSU and they were telling me about all of the demands Saban made on them to hire assistants and change offices and workout facilities etc and how people were getting annoyed but it was worth it. He had dozens of assistants and advisors. He was organized like nothing they had ever seen.

He literally changed the program


Tarpon08
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
Joe Dean's cheap arse made the hire not Bertman.


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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
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He had Michigan State on the upswing after they'd kinda faded into mediocrity under Perles.


And they were hit with sanctions while Saban was at Michigan State. Lost 9 schollys over two years. One year, he was only allowed to sign 18 kids. He was not the trendy name. Many wanted Mark Richt, who was OC at Florida State. And Saban was not that young when he got here. He was already 48 years old. He had been around for a while.


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ATLTiger
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
LSU press release announcing the hire

LINK (LSUsports.net)


Zarkinletch416
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
......sell the City of New Orleans and throw the checkbook at Nick Saban.


Topwater Trout
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
His MSU team beat OSU in Columbus and I think they were #1


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TopWaterTiger
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
Not a whole lot because of track record at the time, but he had great experience in NFL and College ranks and I'm sure, being the man he is, he killed during the interviews.


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SOL2
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
All I remember is that he was highly recommended to Emmert by some NFL GM - I think he was GM of the Colts. It looks like the dude was right.


BRTiger2005
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
I worked in the AD when we hired him. One of the biggest driving forces was the fact that he had success both on the field and in recruiting at a school that wasn't the dominant team in their state.

The idea was if he could have success while having to battle the dominant state team in Michigan, how much more successful would he be in Louisiana with no in-state competition and a better recruiting talent base.


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lsufb1912
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
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And Saban was not that young when he got here. He was already 48 years old.


Anything under 50 for a HC is pretty young. You can get a good 15-20 year run if you can hire a HC under 50.

Aranda is 45
Tucker is 49
Napier is 42


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michael corleone
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
Much like Arnsbarger, football people thought he was a defensive genius and great coach. He was a hell of a lot younger and had a recent college background. All of this was on paper. Emmert spoke to Nick one on one and he blew them away as he asked all of the why questions fans asked for years. He then asked for certain things to establish the “program” —-facilities, support staff, etc. they could see his vision at that point.


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josh336
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
Detail oriented, my favorite trait of a coach. Find the most detail oriented guy with a vision


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Alt26
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re: When we got Saban from Michigan State what stood out about him?
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He had Michigan State on the upswing after they'd kinda faded into mediocrity under Perles.


Really, it wasn't until his final season at MSU that they had gotten beyond right around .500. Saban had an NFL background, but it wasn't like Belichek was Bleichek at that time. Bill was probably seen as more of "brains" behind the defense even with Saban as the DC just like some Saban's DC's are looked at now. What sold LSU the most was Nick had a very detailed plan/vision of how he was going to tap into the "natural resources" LSU was wasting (tremendous talent pool both in state and regionally).

Many may not want to admit it, but in a lot of ways Mel Tucker's resume mirrors Saban's before he came to LSU. Lots of NFL experience and the same year the LSU job comes open he is having a great season with MSU. Even their ages are about the same at that point in their careers (Saban was ~49 when LSU hired him; Tucker is 49 now)

NO DOUBT that is what Tucker's agent (a guy named Jimmy Sexton) is selling to MSU. He's probably saying "You had Nick Saban here and you let him get away to LSU. Don't make the same mistake twice!!"

Now, is it realistic to think Tucker would achieve the same level of success Saban has? Of course not. But if you want to see who has probably the most pre-LSU Saban-esque resume, it is probably Tucker.


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