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re: What does this mean for Joe Sloan?

Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22757 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:36 pm to
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Is it possible that there’s a behind the scenes deal with Sloan and Michigan?

We can only hope.
Posted by Billy Johnson
Member since Oct 2024
432 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:40 pm to
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What does that say about Kelly? We have no stability at the coordinators.


All the more reasons why Kelly isn’t cut out for this job. Too bad there are too many retards on here who will vehemently defend him.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11985 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:42 pm to
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Colin Hurley high school rushing stats: 147 carries for 7 yards and 6 TDs. Senior year 78 for 177 and 5 TDs. Wouldn’t say he’s a running QB.


People assume every black QB can run lmao
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62019 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:56 pm to
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Nothing in coaching is just an asinine statement considering the development of BT and MN who were not highly thought of coming into last yea


Do what now? 1st of all, those abbreviations are disgusting. Pick yourself up. But Malik lead the SEC in catches in ‘22 and had over 1,000 receiving yards. And BTJ, while he was only 4th or 5th that year in receiving yards, was 2nd on the team in receiving TDs with 5. Only Jaray Jenkins had more with just 6. It was easy to see that BTJ was a bit raw and needed development, with his size and speed and Kayshon and Jaray leaving, that he was primed to make a really big jump in ‘23. I don’t think anybody could have predicted him to have 17 TDs, but nobody outside of the program could have seen the explosion of the LSU passing game in ‘23.

Malik only had 3 TDs in ‘22. A lot of that was Jayden not trusting himself and his WRs enough to just let it rip deep like he did in ‘23. And certainly nobody could have predicted his historical accuracy with balls down the field. But the offense was admittedly handcuffed in ‘22 by Denbrock’s route combos. He made a big deal going into ‘23 that they caught too many balls with their backs to the end zone. It worked, but kept us from being very explosive by limiting yards after the catch. He said the offense put a premium on running routes that would allow our guys to catch the ball in stride and facing the end zone so they could keep running. I’d say that evolution worked. Almost everybody’s yards per catch went up 4 or 5 yards. And it’s why Malik went from 3 to 14 TDs and BTJ went from 5 to 17. Jayden took a huge leap in his deep ball accuracy, his recognizing defenses presnap, and trusting them to make plays down the field. Denbrock saw this and completely changed our route concepts. But that was more about what Jayden could—and was willing to—do in ‘23 more than what Malik and BTJ couldn’t do in ‘22.

And I don’t know who you were watching, but I was telling everybody who would listen—after ‘22 and BEFORE ‘23—that Malik was gonna be just like Chase and Jett’s and walk into the NFL and immediately be a top 10 WR. I think he’s actually even better than that, he’s just had to deal with injuries, Daniel Jones being his QB, and the Giants not having any other real threats to take pressure off Malik. But if you were paying attention, you could tell Malik was a fricking dawg, even in ‘22. It’s like after that 2nd muffed punt against Florida State, he took that shite personally and just flipped a switch.

Now, I’m not suggesting Hankton didn’t have a significant hand in developing Malik and BTJ. I’m sure he did, but how much, I have no idea. Not sure anybody but those guys really do. But it ain’t like he took a couple of stiffs and turned them into 1st rounders. He had some nice clay to work with those 2. They were always both super talented, and dare I say their ascents in their 3rd years were almost inevitable. But Malik is such a dawg and cares so fricking much, that I’m not sure he wouldn’t have had a similar season without a WR at all. We don’t talk often enough about his sheer will. He was simply not to be denied.

Again, I’m not saying Hankton sucks or is a poor developer. He may be a great one. We don’t know, because we’re not there. But suggesting that nobody had high expectations of those 2 heading into ‘23 is just flat out false.

But to the OP’s title, I think there’s just a tiny bit over 0% that Sloan is back next year. And I doubt that Hankton is either. Neither are gonna take a demotion, and BK’s gonna have to use a lot of his dwindling political capital to bring in the best OC he can identify and hire. I just hope to God it’s not Tommy Rees.
Posted by SupermanSlim
Member since Jan 2018
840 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 7:01 pm to
He developed a running QB who struggled with accuracy into a Heisman winning QB who is winning in the NFL.. we gonna fire him a year later?
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
3688 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 7:16 pm to
Hankton has been trying to get out of LSU for awhile now. He basically had one foot out the door as this season started and it shows in coaching and recruiting.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66374 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 7:34 pm to
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What does this mean for Joe Sloan?


Impossible to say because it's impossible to judge his performance.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
11781 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 8:38 pm to
A call to a realtor.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 9:01 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48776 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:07 pm to
Should have fired him yesterday
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
7836 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:07 pm to
He's toast. Bring back Slinger
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
30594 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:11 pm to
We need to clean house completely and hijack Pat Sumrall and his staff from Tulane.

LSU is going nowhere but down, and offense, defense and special teams are all equally to blame. Is there anything this football team can do well?
Posted by kwtiger70
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
929 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:12 pm to
Sloan seems to be a great QB coac, look at Daniel’s. But he seems to be over his head at OC. Would he accept a demotion back to QB coach and Kelly hire a new Offensive coordinator?
Posted by bayouboo
Member since Jan 2007
3549 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:17 pm to
Everyone thinking a new OC will come in and magically fix things with this O line is delusional.

Kelly would be better served getting a new OL coach and hitting the portal hard for O lineman.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22654 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:25 pm to
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Sloan needs a running QB for his offense to really excel and you have two on the bench in Ricky Collins and Colin Hurly...Nuss needs to go pro...


Has he called one designed QB run the entire year? How do you have an offense that relies on a QB keeping it if he never keeps it?

Seriously it’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. The entire design is that the QB is a threat, but you don’t even bother to make the defense believe it.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:33 pm to
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Is it possible that there’s a behind the scenes deal with Sloan and Michigan?


If this happens....violence is the only answer lol
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22811 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 9:38 pm to
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He developed a running QB who struggled with accuracy into a Heisman winning QB who is winning in the NFL.
That's not exactly true... Daniels was accurate. 65% at ASU his last year there, 68% first year at LSU, 72% his Heisman year.

What he did with Jayden was to get him to pass to receivers who weren't extremely open, something he hesitated on his first year here.
And honestly, if you look at Jayden's career, you could see why he was nervous about throwing into coverage-
he had 20 INT in his 5 yr college career. 10 came in his last year at ASU, same number as the TDs he had that year. So his first year here was the first year after that happened, he tried to take care of the ball more. He did, and opened back up more his senior year.

Was that Sloan rebuilding his confidence? We don't know.
Posted by BadaBingBadaBoom
Lafourche Parish
Member since Mar 2022
2500 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:02 pm to
Sad thing is Sloan is a good QB coach, OC, not so much!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66374 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 10:03 pm to
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How do you have an offense that relies on a QB keeping it if he never keeps it?

Seriously it’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. The entire design is that the QB is a threat, but you don’t even bother to make the defense believe it.


None of this is true though.

tRant creates a false narrative then melts over said narrative.


Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14401 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:25 am to
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maybe Kelly just moves on from him all together and promotes Cortez to OC?


For that thought to even materialize in your head and then progress to an actual post, tells me you're either drunk, high or dumb as Georgia red clay dirt. (Probably all three)
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33702 posts
Posted on 11/23/24 at 12:59 am to
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Everyone swore Underwood loves Sloan and that he’s the reason he was coming to LSU. Is it possible that there’s a behind the scenes deal with Sloan and Michigan?



I never bought into that bullshite. I believe Bryce liked lsu because he saw himself as the next jayden daniels. Had nothing to do with Sloan.
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